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Slunger,

It really depends upon what you are looking for. Are you wanting to go the "classical" route with a sidelock percussion or flintlock or are you looking at the modern in-lines?

If you're the &quot;sidewinder&quot; type, Lyman makes a couple of excellent models to choose from. If you want to go with the modern in-lines............well the sky is the limit! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

All the major manufacturers make some quality in-line shootin' irons. There are many models from makes like CVA, Thompson Center, Traditions, Knight (my personal favorite), Remington, White, Austin/Hallock, White, Markesbury, and Savage even has a model that shoots regular smokeless powder. And just about any of these will serve you well for a number of years.

Everybody has there own personal favorites. My advice would be to read the answers you get here and then go to a shop and handle all the weapons that you can. To be honest, feel and trust in a particular brand - may be the best deciding factor you will find.

Oh, if you're the type that likes to be a little different in their tastes, you might even consider this model: http://www.prabullpup.com/Bullpup2.html
It's an interesting piece of equipment.


&quot;Every moving thing that liveth, I give unto you as meat&quot; (Gen 9:3)

Trust God..........but keep your powder dry!

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well what do you want to shoot???? Flint, sidelock, In-Line???? I really like T/C, but there is others that are as good...Go to a gun shop and ask about all these and keep in mind of the State you want to hunt mostly... Take PA... muzzleloading season you have to use a FlintLock at .50cal round ball ONLY...Also are you going to use a scope??? Check the Laws out in Every State you plane to Hunt...

Live to Hunt.....Hunt to Live
NAHC Life Member & BuckMaster Member

Edited by - mysticguido on 03/07/2002 09:48:16

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Yes, PA requires a flintlock during muzzleloading season, but it doesn't have to be a .50 cal. Also, right now, they let you use conicals as well as round balls, although that may change again before next ML season.

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PA does require a FLINTLOCK. You must use a min. .45cal. You are not allowed scopes, But you can use Fiber optic INSERT on your IRON sights. Also you are allowed to use conical style,sabots, and roundballs. Each year they come out with new Regs. so be sure to check your PA hunting book before heading out. PA flintlock hunter for the pAst 5 years. By the way I recommend the PA Hunter oct. to round barrell style (1:66 twist) reliable and accurate, not the carbine Pa hunter, that is the new style one. It might be great it just seems like a waste to pay more for a less accurate MZLDR'


keep your powder dry!

LIFE MEMBER NAHC

Edited by - kidd642 on 03/12/2002 21:37:38

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I posed this same question on several boards and 9 times out of 10 I was told to get the Encore. I know thats what my mind is set on for next year. Heck, that'll probably be the last gun I get for awhile since I can change the barrels and make it any caliber I want.

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Scrape,
If you buy the T/C Encore you will NEVER be sorry or out gunned.
The 209x50 is absolutely the last muzzle loader you will ever need to buy, As it tis the finest muzzle loader ever made. And ohh, did I mention the most accurate!<img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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I would check out the NEF muzzleloader....Lots cheaper than the Encore with most of the features.

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T/C Black Diamond, it is everything the manufacturer says it is.

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Top of the Line: Thompson Center Oncore-- this is a great gun. around $500

Or a little cheaper: Knight American Package Kit-- i have this gun and it is an awesome shooter for a pretty cheap price tag. $125 for the kit

Both of these guns are In-lines

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I looked at an Austen/Halleck halfstock flintlock .50 roundball, Hawken-style rifle at the Hunter's Den in Waynesboro PA last week. It was a very well-made gun, sparked nicely, and had a good adjustable doubler-set trigger. It also had a full-buckhorn rear sight that I would have had to scrap if I were to try to use the gun for hunting!!

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Depends if you want to go traditional or modern in-line.Traditional I would check the T/C or Lyman line out.For the modern In-line there are so many great ones to choose from.My favorite is my Knight Disc.I have a Ruger 77/50 but still haven't tried it out.I would recommend if possible shoot different ones before you buy one. If you have a local range go and see if there is anybody shooting a ML.Talk to them ask questions.Once you decide which one you want,check different shooter suppliers and compare prices.There are allot of good buys but you have to search the catalogs.Check your states regulations which are legal to hunt with. Ruger Redhawk

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I have built many front loaders over the years and have used them for club shoots and for hunting. All the ones I have built were 50 cal. and love them I have had my share of missfires in the feild on bad rainy days but still stuck with them. I just got a T/C Encore a couple weeks ago and shot last weekend and felt that the difference is unreal I think that there will be no problem in foul weather with the inline it was a real pleasure shooting this new one. like several guys have said check your DNR to see what laws you have in your area before you buy. which ever you go with try different powder loads since all guns have a mind of there own and shoot different. Good luck and just practice.