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RE: 150 grain loads

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RE: 150 grain loads

I also own a CVA and a New Frontier Beartooth Magnum both made by BPI and after reading Cayugad's post I called CVA's customer service and I was told you could safely shoot up to 120gr of Triple Seven in their guns. 120gr is considered a magnum load of loose T7.

RE: 150 grain loads

Well I am glad to learn that hcurt. I was going by what was written in the manual. At least I know I was not doing something unsafe, which makes me feel a little better. Still the accuracy was not real good. I am going to be trying conicals in the rifle and see how they shoot....

RE: 150 grain loads

100 grains is plenty.

RE: 150 grain loads

I was shooting 150 grains 3 pellets of 777 with a 295 areo tip poowerbelt out of my CVA Firebolt inline and was getting OK groups. I had read another post about how CVA does not test these magnum barrells so I dropped the charge down to 100 grains for saftey reasons. Also I switched over to the 250 grain TC Shockwave and had better groups at 100 yards.

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RE: 150 grain loads

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Every rifle is an individual. What shoots well in one rifle may not shoot well in another. Twist rate, rifling depth, width of lands and grooves, even the amount of polish in the bore will change the way each bullet will shoot. Generally the magnum loads only work with sabots. Conicals have a habit of stripping if the load is too heavy. The most important thing is to work up an accurate powder/bullet combo. The selling point of the magnum loads is velocity. Everybody wants you to be able to shoot like Quigly without having to adjust for bullet drop. Modest charges can be very lethal. Remember, guides for dangerous game often rely on a 45-70. That name stood for 45cal with 70gr blackpowder in the cartridge. I don't know too many people that claim the 45-70 lacks effectiveness.

Has anyone here noticed that when a writer/reviewer for any of the gun or hunting magazines reviews either a muzzleloader or a bullet, he automatically uses 150 of triple 7? This trend (along with marketing by the manufacturers) misleads people into believing that they need to use 150 grains of powder, don't you think?

RE: 150 grain loads

When I bought the 45cal barrel for my Encore, I started out with 150gr of powder, just because it would handle that much. I quickly found out that bigger is not always better. Using the same 225gr Powerbelt with 100gr of Pyrodex, I gained an inch in accuracy at 100yds.

RE: 150 grain loads

I checked my50 cal encore just to see how much powder it used.I normanly shoot 105,110or115 grs of pyrodex,so I started with 115 and shot in 5 gr incruments,the grass was wet so I could see if it was blowing unused powder out the barrel,did fine to 120 grs but at 125 grs it blew out little burning and smoking cinders ,so I figure that 120 grs is the max powder load I can use in the encore.That was with a 195 gr,200 gr bullet,don't know about any larger bullet.

RE: 150 grain loads

I have a T/C Encore which handles the 150 grain loads. I used 3 pellets of 777 when I tested it. When I bought the rifle the guy at the gun store kept telling me to work up a good load in the 100 grain catagory. Sure, that Encore will handle the 150 magnum load, but you'd better have a good dentist!

Course he was right. The 150 grain loads beat the snot out of ya! I settled on 2 pellets, topped off by Hornady's 250 grain SST sabot. Give excellent accuracy at 100 yards. If I decide to start trying to shoot longer ranges, and I get tired of my current fillings in my teeth, I may start testing the 3 pellet load again.