Best Scope?
#1
Thread Starter
Joined: May 2003
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From: Charleston WV
Hey all i will be getting a TC Omega 50cal after christmas and dont
know what scope that fits it. I read somewhere that a scope say for
a 270 rifile wouldnt work because of the length. Any suggestions
would be greatly appreciated. Sorry if you guys get this ? alot.
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know what scope that fits it. I read somewhere that a scope say for
a 270 rifile wouldnt work because of the length. Any suggestions
would be greatly appreciated. Sorry if you guys get this ? alot.
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#2
I just got a T/C Black Diamond XR and mounted a scope last night on it. I bought the Quick-kee steel low style weaver mounts that are made for the rifle. I then mounted a Bushnell 1.5 X 4.5 32 mm Dusk to Dawn Shotgun/Muzzleloader scope. I am impressed with the clearity of the scope. I have not had a chance to shoot it yet, but was sighting out the window at Dusk and was surprised how far I could see into my woods.
I will be able to tell you more about how dependable the scope is after I put a few rounds through it.... Until then you can look at scopes and decide how much you really want to spend on the scope. That will give you an idea of the brand and features you can get...
Good Luck with the new rifle.
I will be able to tell you more about how dependable the scope is after I put a few rounds through it.... Until then you can look at scopes and decide how much you really want to spend on the scope. That will give you an idea of the brand and features you can get...
Good Luck with the new rifle.
#3
I can't see why most riflescopes wouldn't work as I have seen the omega packages here with Bushnell riflescope (which measure around 12" in length). So you should be able to buy any scope and mount it with the appropriate mounting hardware. If you want a BP/Shotgun scope the difference is generally overall length, power and Parallex set at 50 vs 100 yards. Personally I use the Bushnell Elite (rifle scopes) series on my ML and had no problems.
I may be wrong but I can't see why you couldn't use almost any scope with this ML.
I may be wrong but I can't see why you couldn't use almost any scope with this ML.
#4
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Jul 2003
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You can get by with a 12" scope for the short-stock Omega if you keep it dialed inward, provide yourself with around 4" of eye relief & shoot bullets 275 grains & under.
As of today, I cannot shoot my favorite 350 grain Keith Nose or my Buffalo S.S.Bs 375 grainers with 110 grains 777 FF without getting nose-bridge cut using a 11.5" scope dialed-out 65% with 4" eye relief.
Virgin Valley offers a 6-hole base/mount that allows you to move the scope forward & install a longer one with less eye relief. They are listed under T/C Encore bases... the exact same design as the Omega. You can also buy a much thicker Sims/Pachmayer-type recoil pad to compensate.
As of today, I cannot shoot my favorite 350 grain Keith Nose or my Buffalo S.S.Bs 375 grainers with 110 grains 777 FF without getting nose-bridge cut using a 11.5" scope dialed-out 65% with 4" eye relief.
Virgin Valley offers a 6-hole base/mount that allows you to move the scope forward & install a longer one with less eye relief. They are listed under T/C Encore bases... the exact same design as the Omega. You can also buy a much thicker Sims/Pachmayer-type recoil pad to compensate.
#5
I was shooting my Black Diamond today with the new Bushnell Dusk to Dawn 1.5 X 4.5 32mm shotgun/muzzleloader scope. I am real pleased with it so far. It is real clear and gathers light well. I was shooting 120 grains of Pyrodex RS and a 370 grain T/C Maxi Ball to see if the recoil would be real bad and also how well the Maxi Balls shot. Well the Maxi Balls shot FANTASTIC. Much better then I ever thought they would. The gun kicked pretty good with that charge because the scope nudged the bill of my hat, but at least it did not catch me. I only had one time the scope I think touched me, but just barely. I was shooting T/C Shockwaves with 120 grains of Pyrodex and was really not holding the rifle, letting the bench do the work, and the gun jumped pretty good. It was my own fault. there is I think 3.5 inches of eye relief with the scope...
#6
ORIGINAL: LiL E
Hey all i will be getting a TC Omega 50cal after christmas and dont
know what scope that fits it. I read somewhere that a scope say for
a 270 rifile wouldnt work because of the length. Any suggestions
would be greatly appreciated. Sorry if you guys get this ? alot.
Hey all i will be getting a TC Omega 50cal after christmas and dont
know what scope that fits it. I read somewhere that a scope say for
a 270 rifile wouldnt work because of the length. Any suggestions
would be greatly appreciated. Sorry if you guys get this ? alot.
Believe it or not, scopes ARE NOT BUILT for different, specific calibers of guns! For example, there is NO SUCH THING as a "scope for a 270 rifle"!!
I have used a variety of different scopes on muzzleloaders, a lot of them ones I had taken off of various center-fire rifles! Any decent scope that gives you the eye relief you want can be used on a muzzleloader! The idea that you have to use a scope specifically made for muzzleloaders is also a lot of B.S.!!
About the only thing I find ludicrous is the notion of mounting of some big-objective variable scope with an upper magnification of 9X or more on a muzzleloader! Today's ML rifles have a maximum effective range of not much over 200 yards at best, most a lot less! You don't need a 9X scope to shoot game at 200 yards!! A good, fixed-power small-objective scope of 2.5X to 4X is by far the best suited to a short-range proposition like the average muzzleloader. In addition, such a scope has a lot bigger field of view, making it a lot better for fast shooting in the timber! Two of the best scopes I've ever used on a ML rifle have been an old, round-tube 2.75X Redfield with post & crosshair reticle, and a 2.5X Leupold with the same reticle design.
If I were looking for a scope for a ML today, I'd look for a used Lyman All-American, old Redfield, or old Leupold on an auction site! No new ones are as wrll-suited to this use!!
#9
ORIGINAL: LiL E
Thanks for all the help fellas. I found a Nikon 4X that i really like. "Do you guys think that would be suitable for my gun.???
Thanks for all the help fellas. I found a Nikon 4X that i really like. "Do you guys think that would be suitable for my gun.???
YOU BET IT WOULD!!
#10
Fork Horn
Joined: Dec 2003
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From: Wisconsin
Lil E,
The Paralax on scopes are set differently. ie.. a shotgun/muzzle loader scope is usually set for 50yds and other loger range scopes 100 or 200 yds. I believe most .22 scopes are also set for 50yds. Some are also designed to handle different types of recoil. I agree with 1950 Kid, few scopes beat the Leupold for quality and service, not to mention a lifetime warranty.
I have found the best prices at Natchez shooter supply.
http://www.natchezss.com/
cybersniper
By the way, Leupold is changing there models for the 2004 year. Now most scopes are clearanced priced.
The Paralax on scopes are set differently. ie.. a shotgun/muzzle loader scope is usually set for 50yds and other loger range scopes 100 or 200 yds. I believe most .22 scopes are also set for 50yds. Some are also designed to handle different types of recoil. I agree with 1950 Kid, few scopes beat the Leupold for quality and service, not to mention a lifetime warranty.
I have found the best prices at Natchez shooter supply.
http://www.natchezss.com/
cybersniper
By the way, Leupold is changing there models for the 2004 year. Now most scopes are clearanced priced.


