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Old 01-27-2018, 05:38 AM
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I just read in AmericanHunter.org that Alliant Powder is discontinuing its Black MZ powder. Its a shame if true. I've been having excellent results with it. Fortunately I've amassed about 8 lb. of it. Going to try and find more.

I JUST RECEIVED A RESPONSE FROM ALLIANT POWDER: THEY STATED THAT AT THIS POINT THERE IS NO MENTION OF BLACK MZ BEING DROPPED FROM THE PRODUCT LINE.

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Old 01-27-2018, 05:54 AM
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Yeah, i would hate to see Black MZ powder go away. Been using that powder since it first came out. Black MZ was hurt by the previous failures of its maker, APP, and badmouthing by shooters who could not make the stuff work.


Got to buy some more soon.

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Old 01-27-2018, 06:23 AM
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I just sent Alliant an email for verification. Supposedly, the Blue MZ pellets by Alliant are NOT discontinued.

I just switched to Blue MZ pellets in December.... for a 2018 trial/testing period. So far - so good. Less residue in the bore afterwards than with Blackhorn. What's lacking is increased bullet speeds that Blackhorn brings (per equal volume used).

Less speed is fine with me. I quit using magnum-type powder loads four years ago. Content with two pellets - that reach 150 yard harvests for me. Content with noticeably less recoil and no hassles keeping breechplugs clean on range visit days.

The #1 thing I'll watch using Blue MZ pellets in 2018, is how it reacts to Michigan's Great Lakes humidity levels. How will the humidity affect ignition of those pellets. That will determine for me if the blue pellets are a keeper, or a goner in 2019.

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Old 01-27-2018, 01:03 PM
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That would be a shame it is a great powder for side locks.
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Old 01-29-2018, 03:31 AM
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hands down in all preferrences blackhorn 209 is the best bp substatute
i had a container for 8 yrs now & still shoots like the day i opened it. i do buy a fresh one every other year. blow 38.00 & buy a container of it & i.m pretty sure your never go back to anything else.
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Old 01-29-2018, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by t.shaffer View Post
hands down in all preferrences blackhorn 209 is the best bp substatute
i had a container for 8 yrs now & still shoots like the day i opened it. i do buy a fresh one every other year. blow 38.00 & buy a container of it & i.m pretty sure your never go back to anything else.
But it doesn't work with percussion cap ignitions reliably because it has a higher combustion temp.
Besides that's your opinion and you know what they say about opinions.
Alliant Black MZ works with all inlines and with caplock sidelocks. The ads say it is good for all muzzleloaders but I don't think I'd rely on it in a flinter.
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Old 01-31-2018, 11:53 AM
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bronco i tried alliant power today in my muzzy yeah i see what you mean about it pretty good powder. also tried the blue pellets & they left crud rings. ended going back to bh209. just waiting to try the new triple 7 pellets to just give them a try. also i also have not tried white hots. want to see if they create a crud ring. just inquizative.
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Old 01-31-2018, 12:00 PM
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If you tried BlueMZ you also tried Whitehots. MSDS is the same and made under the same patent.
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Old 01-31-2018, 03:53 PM
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Email arrived finally, Here's what they said about Black Mag MZ discontinuation.

Joseph,
I have not been informed that it is being dropped.
What I have been told is that there has been large amount sitting in the warehouse for some time. Until this is sold, an assessment will then be made as to when the next batch may be made.

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2299 Snake River Ave
Lewiston, ID 83501
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Old 01-31-2018, 04:38 PM
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Yes this is the same response I received from them. That is why I edited the original post to state this.

Originally Posted by GoexBlackhorn View Post
Email arrived finally, Here's what they said about Black Mag MZ discontinuation.

Joseph,
I have not been informed that it is being dropped.
What I have been told is that there has been large amount sitting in the warehouse for some time. Until this is sold, an assessment will then be made as to when the next batch may be made.

Thanks,
Duane V.
Technical Services Rep

Alliant/Blazer/CCI/Speer
2299 Snake River Ave
Lewiston, ID 83501
1-800-379-1732
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