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SoldSpartan 08-06-2017 09:26 AM

Question for Starters
 
I was wondering where I can go to find out what Muzzle loader is right for me?

MountainDevil54 08-06-2017 10:56 AM

try www.muzzle-loaders.com

You can also start here with your state rules/regulations/ your height/weight. That would help us size a rifle for you.

hunters_life 08-06-2017 11:17 AM

If he is in Georgia, as long as it loads from the muzzle and .44cal min, there are no other restrictions. So now you need to make the decision of what type of muzzleloader you wish to get in to. Sidelock- flintlock or percussion, inline- bolt or break open action, what kind of stock you prefer and what will fit you as a shooter, open sights, peep, or scoped, you can even go smokeless powder and have a nice rifle built. The muzzleloader world has really opened up over the past 20 years with many types and qualities of rifles out there.

SoldSpartan 08-06-2017 11:54 AM

I believe here in the state of Georgia you have black powder firearms shipped to your front door.
But down to what type muzzleloader I want, I guess inline rifle that's scoped, and wooden stock would be nice.

Muley Hunter 08-06-2017 11:59 AM

I'd check for a gun shop near you that carries muzzleloaders so you can see what fits you.

SoldSpartan 08-06-2017 12:13 PM

The only place that might have muzzleloaders is a Bass-Pro shop near where I live.

Muley Hunter 08-06-2017 12:16 PM

Yes, they have them. Go check it out.

SoldSpartan 08-06-2017 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 4312612)
try www.muzzle-loaders.com

You can also start here with your state rules/regulations/ your height/weight. That would help us size a rifle for you.

I'm 5'10 and weigh 190 pounds.

hunters_life 08-06-2017 12:33 PM

Like archery, weight really doesn't matter much as far as fit of a stock. Arm length and hand size is what is key to stock fitting. Then you have neck length, distance from your cheek to your dominant eye for proper comb height. Lots of things that get pretty technical for perfect fit. Most hunters tend to fit themselves to the rifle rather than the rifle to them which isn't really a good thing. If I were you, I'd go to that bass pro shop and hold as many rifles as you can find to see what fits you comfortably then go from there. A properly fitted rifle won't beat the hell out of you so much at the range as an improperly fit rifle. Less beating equates to more practice which is always best.

TN Lone Wolf 08-06-2017 09:18 PM

Hunters_life made some pretty good points.

I'll add that you should probably start with a good 50x209 inline. You probably can't go wrong with anything from one of the major manufacturers like T/C, CVA, and Traditions. Find the one that fits you and your preferences.

Also, don't necessarily go for one just because it has the "magnum 150 grain charge" capacity. Unless you're after really big game or are going to shoot at longer ranges, I don't think 150 grains of powder is necessary.

hubby11 08-07-2017 04:47 AM

Last two posts have very good advice. One last thing, when you are shouldering rifles (as many as you can) to see how they fit you, consider whether you will be using a scope or not. A rifle might not feel very good lining up the open sites but will be great when using a scope. Conversely, a scoped rifle might not be a very good open sights rifle.

zmason1002 08-07-2017 08:04 AM

Also if you test out one at bass pro make sure you have them take the trigger lock off. I handled a knight mountaineer with thumb hole stock and it had the trigger lock and when I got mine ordered the thumb hole to trigger is almost to long since I have smaller hands.

flint head 08-07-2017 12:26 PM

This is coming from a huge "goose neck" CVA Accura fan... but the Accura MR is one fine feeling and shooting gun. I would give it a really hard look... but good luck with what ever you choose.

TN Lone Wolf 08-08-2017 08:32 PM

Whatever you decide on, I'd like to see some pictures.

SoldSpartan 08-09-2017 12:32 PM

Above all else I want a gun that is fun and cheap to shoot.

MountainDevil54 08-09-2017 12:50 PM

In that case, you'll want to go the traditional route.

SoldSpartan 08-09-2017 12:54 PM

Can I shoot round shot out of a modern inline rifle?

MountainDevil54 08-09-2017 01:17 PM

yes, with very low powder charges and so-so accuracy.

hunters_life 08-09-2017 01:20 PM

If it is a 1:28 twist barrel then yes you can with reduced charges. More than 50 grains of powder and you more than likely wouldn't like the results. You would get much better results from a maxi in a modern inline if you want to go the really cheap to shoot route. But you can go pretty cheap with some saboted bullets like the Thompson Center Cheap Shots. They are very inexpensive and they shoot pretty well from my sisters Thompson Center Impact. All of my BP rifles are from 1:48 to 1:66 twist not counting my dad's .50 caliber barrel for the Pro Hunter frame. Still have a hard time calling all those rifles and pistols I inherited from him mine.

TN Lone Wolf 08-09-2017 03:11 PM

You know, you can buy some sabots and cheap .452" cast lead bullets separately to create an economical practice loads if you go the inline route.

SoldSpartan 08-12-2017 12:04 PM

Never mind

SoldSpartan 08-12-2017 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by TN Lone Wolf (Post 4313007)
You know, you can buy some sabots and cheap .452" cast lead bullets separately to create an economical practice loads if you go the inline route.

Where can I find that?

hunters_life 08-12-2017 12:50 PM

I think I figured out how to link you to another page. Here are the Thompson Center Cheap Shots I referred to. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/10...let-pack-of-20 At 8.99 per 20, that's getting pretty dang cheap.

TN Lone Wolf 08-12-2017 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by SoldSpartan (Post 4313237)
Where can I find that?

My preferred source is Midwayusa.com for all things shooting related. I actually just placed an order with them earlier this morning. As an example, I'm planning on running the .451" 200 grain Barnes XPB out of my Optima V2 pistol using a Harvester Crushed Rib sabot. However, since this combination costs $1.10 per shot, I decided to buy some .452" 200 grain Berry's HP bullets for practice. This will allow me to practice far more cheaply at 29 cents per shot.

Once you figure out which bullet you plan to hunt with, you could order some sabots and cheap target-only bullets for practicing, plinking, and general shooting. Just make sure you order the correct sabots for that diameter bullet. Come season, sight in with your hunting bullets and you'll be set.

SoldSpartan 08-12-2017 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by TN Lone Wolf (Post 4313245)
My preferred source is Midwayusa.com for all things shooting related. I actually just placed an order with them earlier this morning. As an example, I'm planning on running the .451" 200 grain Barnes XPB out of my Optima V2 pistol using a Harvester Crushed Rib sabot. However, since this combination costs $1.10 per shot, I decided to buy some .452" 200 grain Berry's HP bullets for practice. This will allow me to practice far more cheaply at 29 cents per shot.

Once you figure out which bullet you plan to hunt with, you could order some sabots and cheap target-only bullets for practicing, plinking, and general shooting. Just make sure you order the correct sabots for that diameter bullet. Come season, sight in with your hunting bullets and you'll be set.

Will those bullets you listed go thru a .50 cal.?

ctom 08-12-2017 04:29 PM

These bullets/sabots are for a .50 cal, yes. The ones in your quote are for a pistol and are maybe a bit light for a rifle. There are a lot of bullets from different makers in the 240 grain to 300 grain weights in .451-.452 diameter [.45 cal] that will behave better in a long gun.

TN Lone Wolf 08-12-2017 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by SoldSpartan (Post 4313251)
Will those bullets you listed go thru a .50 cal.?

With the right sized sabots for the bullet's diameter, you can fire just about any 40, 44, or 45 caliber pistol bullet trough a 50 cal inline. That said, you should probably choose something other than the ones I chose. I went with my choices because my muzzleloader is a pistol, and you'll be working with much higher velocities. The Berry's bullets might work just fine since they're soley target fodder, but I don't know how well that Barnes bullet would perform on a deer at muzzleloading rifle velocities.

I would recommend choosing a hardcast bullet the same diameter as the bullets you intend to hunt with, and as close in weight as possible. For instance, if you go with a 240 or 250 grain hunting bullet, you might try one of these for target shooting/plinking:

Hunters Supply Hard Cast Bullets 45 Caliber (452 Diameter) 250 Grain Lead Flat Nose

Meister Hard Cast Bullets 45 Caliber (452 Diameter) 230 Grain Lead Round Nose

TN Lone Wolf 08-12-2017 08:16 PM

Also: Berry's Superior Plated Bullets 45 Caliber (452 Diameter) 250 Grain Plated Flat Point


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