Well, the boredom has thoroughly set in and I have been overruled on buying a swinglock. The boss (wife) has put the foot down (dang near on my throat no less) and said absolutely not. But in her all powerful goodness she has told me if I could come in under 2K I could build what I want. SO, here are my options. I have 2 Savage 110 long action rifles and 2 Savage 10 short actions that I really don't shoot all that much and one of the 10's the barrel is pretty much blown out anyway. Thinking seriously about one of those Hankins barrels for one of those Savage actions. I am assuming that and a stock will be all I would need with those Hankins modules being sized like a case. Just need to get the proper modules to fit my current bolt I imagine? Anyone have any experience with these rigs? Thoughts? I will be going .45cal with 1:18 twist. And I will have him cut the barrel to 28" and send off the cut part to Swinglock to have a full sizing die made. Guess I will have to search around some to find a good stock with a rod holder in it. Any other things I should think about or research?

Smooth sizing works fine but keep your barrel drop anyway. I would go 1-20 Brux...his standard Savage Prefit. You wont gain anything from the 1-18 unless you want to shoot long 350gr+ and most people dont.

BTW make sure you have a 4.40 spacing and large shank barrel. You will have WAY less stock options in the 4.27 spacing. A Savage large shank is still smaller than a Rem700 at the shank and if you have any desire to shoot the upper end loads its a safer way to go

This is going to be a multi duty/game size rifle GM. So I want the option to be able to load up a serious Moose bullet. Hence the 1:18 twist. Either making my own on the lathe or finding some super high BC bullets in .450+range with a 400gr weight range for downrange energy at 300 yards. The problem isn't finding bullets with high BC, it's the terminal performance of most of them really suck wind. Those with the best terminal performance, usually have seriously crappy BC and couldn't buck a slight breeze at range. Those with a good BC either blow up on a shoulder or just pencil through and never open. It's a rare thing that I ever have to fire on Moose past 200 yards in the places I hunt, but I'm getting old as dirt and I just can't get in on some places silently like I used to. So I am going to have to equalize my limitations with a bit longer range capability.

The 10 with the mostly blown out barrel is 4.40" screw spaced and yeah I knew the large shank part. I plan on some seriously beefy loads sometimes so I want a really good strong setup.

Any ideas on a stock for this? I could most likely drill a rod holder and figure out how to install a spring loaded "keeper" but I'd rather not have to fool with all that.

Load data for that will be very hard to come by. Getting someone to trace that load wont be easy either. You will be "guestimating" with QuickLoad.

A Barnes 290gr TEZ at over 2600fps will kill anything in NA and most other continents too. Pittman offers some aluminum tipped cup and core bullets upto 375gr and rated at .401 BC IIRC. He sells them in a standard and hard core. The 350gr and under are fine in the 1-20.



The new Aeromax will be out soon with a higher BC rating.

I have a very good Stainless steel Knight Disc I would sale you at a good price. You could have Bestil put a 45 Brux barrel on it with a Smokeless breech plug for no more then $1000.00 bucks total.

lol I can make them a hell of a lot cheaper than 2.15 a bullet! (I'm assuming those are Parker match/hunter). Don't forget, ole pappy is retired now and not bringing in 7 figures! Gotta tighten the old belt up a bit or, as the wife says, "yer big ass is cut off!!" Dang obummercare and back to back knee surgeries put a pretty large dent in my "fun" money for a couple years dangit! I figure a medium length bearing surface and a fairly low angled cut down to the tip in a pure solid copper (basically like the one on the right in the pic) may have enough act right in it out to 300 yards. Would probably pencil at anything longer.

I like the idea behind using the modules Tom. Those things would make my world a ton easier with my big ole fumbling fingers. Not to mention being a LOT cleaner. And after doing just a LITTLE research, with me supplying the receiver, I can come in under 1K for the barrel, plug, bushing, modules, and stock (maybe a touch over with the stock. Haven't picked on one yet) and lord knows I have more large rifle mag primers than I will use in a lifetime probably. Who knows, may end up with an even better rifle than a swinglock!!

Im not positive, GM54 might know the answer. But I Bestil can make the breech plug to use large rifle primers like you want. Just a suggestion that's all

That is a Pittman Accumax bullet. Its a little cheaper than the Parker but if you want to play you got to pay. Moose hunts are not cheap and it only takes 1 bullet to get the job done.

$190.00 Per 100 Count

$ 95.00 Per 50 Count

$ 47.50 Per 25 Count


There are tons of cheaper bullets you can shoot for recreation.

I would make another suggestion, get a nutless Savage barrel. It will end up with a similar OD as a Rem700 which is around 1.2"+. Barrels like that are shooting a 275gr bullet slightly over 3000fps with just H4198. I think a 300gr is moving around 2800fps. All the load work has already been done for you. No guess work, no questimates with QuickLoad. I can show you were to look at countless SML traces but pretty much all of them are 325gr and under.

Do the math, its a monster load. Easily capable of 500 yard accuracy and knockdown.

Honestly GM, I just want something that will be extremely accurate with enough speed/power available out to 300 to properly break through a big Bull Moose shoulder and make nice jelly out of the heart and lungs or snap a spine on a high shoulder shot. I'm 100% confident in my loads with my TC out to 200 on whitetail or elk and 150 on a Big Bull Moose but I'd really like to double my effective range. 1 of the 3 areas I hunt in AK are ML/SGSlug only which is the whole purpose of this build. Well not the WHOLE purpose, another reason is...I just want one dangit!!

As far as the nutless barrel suggestion, the whole point of using a Savage was the ease of headspacing without having to lathe the barrel or indexing. If I were to go that route, I'd just use one of the several 700 receivers I have laying around. If I still have the damn things. Knowing my kids I aint to sure! Sticky fingered little B's OHHHH,,, I still have 2 K98 actions waiting to be brought to life!!! And 2 Timney featherweight triggers to go withum!!! Okay dangit,,,Now my head is hurting!!! Got me thinkin to dang much!!