I've been playing with this gun for awhile now. Probably one of the best feeling Break open Muzzleloader's I've ever shot. But at the end of the day I just don't trust it for hunting.

1- the main reason is the breech plug. Though I like the concept, it's very poorly designed and probably the worst breech plug I've ever used in today's modern muzzleloaders. It really reminds me of the older Knights. Very dirty, lots of blow back, and in my testing unreliable ignition. I should mention to, the plug has been modified with a 5/32 flame channel and a ventliner. I don't have a doubt with proper care and cleaning it would work reliably for anyone. That's just not how I treat them. When testing I shoot I think a lot, and I don't clean the plug. It's over kill for sure, but I like to be prepared for the worst.

The gun in my eyes is very accurate, good trigger, and handles very well. I would like to see a redesign in the plug using the same concept. And make the gun out of better materials and charge more for it. But right now I think the gun is over priced but I guess everything is now a days.

I would of liked to keep it, but when a tool doesn't do the job I get rid of it. But I think CVA has made really good progress, and they need to keep working on it some more.

LMAO

Dirty? my my, what ever did you do before lehigh made knights shoot cleaner? I guess sticking primers are easier to deal with.

Well Grouse I don't know how many shots you plan on taking while hunting. My Accura V2 has the CVA Blackhorn BP and I haven't had any issues with it. You may have read my latest thread on my hog/deer hunt. My rifle performed flawlessly taking 3 heads of game with 3 shots (one shot each).
Yeah there is some blowback from the primers but who gives a rat's butt? Ignition is reliable and the rifle is accurate. Who could ask for more?

What a crock! Sounds like the operator is inept to me.

Well, hopefully a buck and two doe in 2D. Probably 8 to 10 in 2B. Hopefully a buck in Ohio and maybe 1 Doe. If things go well probably 5 Coyotes between PA and Ohio. So i guess 15 to 20 shots plus in hunting in bad weather I'll shoot the gun off to.

Are you going to shoot all that game in one day? Clean the gun at the end of the day.

I've taken 50 shots with no swabbing and a fast twist of a drill in the flame channel every 10 shots. Which can be done without taking out the BP. It takes 15 seconds.

CVA will give you a free shim kit is you ask for one. That takes care of all the blowback.

Seriously Tom. The MR is a great hunting gun.

I personally explained very clearly if taken care of you would have no issues at all. I'm not posting this to make anyone happy, but I think I gave the gun a fair test and said plenty good things about it. What people do or don't do is not my problem at all. I use and shoot a variety of Muzzleloader's and enjoy it.

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I think most of us on here do shoot a wide variety of MLs Grouse. But I don't know what kind of testing you do to get unreliable ignition. And a bit of blow back from a shot or two during a day of hunting is definitely no problem. At least for me and many other shooters. And I don't want to start an argument but the way you must do your testing has absolutely nothing at all to do with hunting with a ML because I don't think anyone shoots as many shots at all the game you stated in one, two or even a week without cleaning their rifle.
But out of curiosity, what do you find unacceptable with the breech plug in the CVAs?

Welcome back old boy. I haven't seen you here in a while. I hope your feeling a bit better.