We all know that each rifle in different.What one likes the other might not, which is why we all work up an accurate load for our guns. However after yesterday I decided to see if the fast twist mountaineer would also shoot the same load as the White and the original Disc. It was hot and also extremely windy but I was curious enough to head out anyway.



I had a weaver 6.5x 20 scope, not my favorite , but I figured it would do for the test. so on it went.




It took quite a few shots to sight it in , probably about 10 or 12. I didn't actually keep up. Normally I clean after each shot with triple 777 but this time I didn't since I was loading GG slip fit conicals. By the time it was sighted in and ready to shoot a group I could really feel the crud ring and so I made sure I compressed the load down good. I probably should have cleaned it at least with a spit patch but I chose to just shoot the group instead. Here's what it looked like



Almost looks like 2 different groups. It could have been me, could have been the conditions and most likely it was the lack of swabbing between shots.
But while it ain't great I think it falls within hunting accuracy .Tthat means that if I wanted , I could probably grab any of the 1:20's and hunt with that same load.That might keep me from forgetting what load is for what gun
The ballistics would be the same ,so it 's kinda nice not to have to remember a bunch of different holdovers . One load, with everything being close across the board. Even the extra inch or 2 of barrel length didn't seem to matter much.
I did encounter a problem with the primer sticking in the primer pocket, It needs polished for sure as the bolt had to be smacked pretty good to get it to open.Other than that I was pleasantly pleased . I think I might carry this experiment a little further in the future.

First I am surprised that you didn't have to run a damp patch after the 4-5th shot since I know you were using 209 primers. I still would have thought you would have enough obstruction to feel the difficulty in seating the bullet.


Then I would ask with the O DISC did you run a patch after each shot. I know I do not have to every time but when shooting for accuracy I always do as I want the bore in the same condition each shot - what I call 'semi fouled'. If you did with the O DISC but didn't with the Mountaineer that could have some bearing - but still the target group you presented would sure have done the job in a hunting situation.


Most of would say 'good shooting' with a hunting bullet and load!!!


Still think you should have had that shoot off with Frontier Gander when he tought his rifle would out shoot everyone's!

I didnt swab the white or original disc which is why i didnt swab the mountaineer . I could feel the crud ring by shot 7 or 8 but i shot about 20 shots total without swabbing. The ramrod is marked . It pushed down and seated ok in spite of the crud ring but it was definitely there.

Even when I shoot the White with 2f 777 I often times find the same thing. About five shots and then I can feel the crud. So then I swab with dollar store Windex. My little LK rifles shoot them BS conicals real well. But I can't push them hard.