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ronlaughlin 03-23-2016 07:12 PM

Why? I don't see why.

Semisane 03-23-2016 07:24 PM

Because they are rifle bullets designed for 45-70 velocities, which pretty well match moderate muzzleloader loads.

Gm54-120 03-23-2016 07:37 PM

The 300gr XTP MAG is likely tougher than many of the 458 300gr HPs. The Sierra, Remington and Hornady 300gr 458s are all kinda fragile for a 300gr rifle bullet. If you want a tougher one, the Speer 300gr 458 is the one to pick.

falcon 03-24-2016 03:30 AM


The 300gr XTP MAG is likely tougher than many of the 458 300gr HPs.
^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^

According to Hornady the 300 grain XTP magnum bullet is good to 2,100 fps. i've shot several 275 pound+ boars with that bullet. Bullet goes through both shoulders and i've never recovered one.

bronko22000 03-24-2016 05:33 AM

Correction - I mean the 350 gr .458" bullet. And the reason I was saying the .458 bullet is that I shot a 300 and 350 lb black bear with the 350 gr Hornady HP with my 45-70 guide gun. One was DRT and the other only ran about 25 yards. The chest cavity looked like jelly in both.

Muley Hunter 03-24-2016 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by bronko22000 (Post 4251907)
I wouldn't hesitate to use a 300 gr XTP on a 300+ lb deer or even an elk for that matter.
Muley I believe that most in here are deer oriented. You and a few others I can understand your reasoning for a bullet that will perform well on elk. And IMO the XTP would stand up to the task. And as I recall you like to get close like me and prefer the .54 PRB and traditional gear.


I do, but i'll be using an inline to hunt this year for the first time. I'll use a Bloodline if I hunt the rifle season. Not sure what i'll use if I hunt the muzzy season.

bronko22000 03-24-2016 06:01 AM

That Bloodline seems like a good bullet. It should work well for you should you get the opportunity. Good luck.

Gm54-120 03-24-2016 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by bronko22000 (Post 4251955)
Correction - I mean the 350 gr .458" bullet. And the reason I was saying the .458 bullet is that I shot a 300 and 350 lb black bear with the 350 gr Hornady HP with my 45-70 guide gun. One was DRT and the other only ran about 25 yards. The chest cavity looked like jelly in both.

Ummmm, which Hornady 350gr HP? I see a 350gr flat point and round nose only.

http://www.hornady.com/store/.458-45-CAL

super_hunt54 03-24-2016 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Gm54-120 (Post 4251975)
Ummmm, which Hornady 350gr HP? I see a 350gr flat point and round nose only.

http://www.hornady.com/store/.458-45-CAL

I've used those FP 350gr in the socom. They sure put the ouch on hogs. Never seen a 350gr HP hornady in .458 though. Might used to have had them and I never ran across them or tried them but as long as I've been using Hornady products (about as long as Hornady has been making them) I never ran across them.

bronko22000 03-24-2016 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by Gm54-120 (Post 4251975)
Ummmm, which Hornady 350gr HP? I see a 350gr flat point and round nose only.

http://www.hornady.com/store/.458-45-CAL

You're right. Its the 300 gr HP. I'm confused. I'm in FL and all my loading data is in PA. At my age I don't load anything without consulting my load data book. I do know they knock the snot out of a blackie.
I also use a 300 gr FP I think they are Sierra. I remember trying the 350 RN in my Winchester 78 (.45-70) but they didn't shoot all that great out of that rifle.


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