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MountainDevil54 11-20-2015 12:12 PM

yes i use round balls and powerbelts, I like to challenge myself rather than use bullets that make up for poor shooting.

You are trying to shoot outside of your comfort zone is how I take it.

super_hunt54 11-20-2015 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 4229260)
See, thats the difference between a good hunter vs a bad hunter accepting a gut shot animal and wanting a bullet to make up for lack of shooting skills or common decency for the animal when the trigger is pulled.

Saying a round ball or any bullet in general isn't good because it doesnt make up for a poor shot is just the shooter not knowing HIS or her limitations.

1rst paragraph 100% correct!

2nd paragraph somewhat correct!

Many bullets out there that you have to avoid shoulder bone because they expand WAY to quickly causing poor penetration and often just injure deer rather than a quick clean kill. Round balls can fall into that category according to their makeup (alloy) as well as the load and range. Your beloved powerbelts DEFINITELY fall into that category. Sorry to bust your bubble MD but I have personally seen the powerbelts in action (or inaction as the case may be) too many times to EVER trust them. I refuse to use a bullet that I have to avoid shoulder bone. Do they fail EVERY time? No. Hell I can throw a rock at a deer and kill it with just the right conditions. Would I hunt with a rock? NO!

sabotloader 11-20-2015 12:33 PM

And I can show you where a 348 PB hit an elk right where it was suppose to but the elk had a layer of dried mud on her. It was a great wounding shot and location for the shot was perfect. And 3 hours later and a mile and 1/2 tracking we did find the animal. A second shot in the head dispatched the animal.

Again NOT ALWAYS but....

Blackpowdersmoke 11-21-2015 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by Grouse45 (Post 4229243)
I missed this but ill gladly teach you how to use a Flintlock since you live in PA. Rain, Snow, wind does not stop us from using a Flintlock successfully. I can also show you how to use 777 in your flintlock as well. Though I still prefer Goex over 777 in my Flintlocks. Its all rather easy, and I believe all can be done for less then $30.00 Bucks.

Grouse...

I was being a wizeazz. I've been shooting and hunting with flintlocks for 39 years and know how to use them in fair and foul weather so I seriously doubt you know any tricks that I don't already know. I don't use T7 powder in my flinters and have no intentions of doing whatever you may suggest to use it, I prefer black powder thank you!

And anyone who says they've never had a klatch, a flash in the pan, hangfire or just plain missed with a flintlock is more than likely not telling the truth!!

BPS

super_hunt54 11-21-2015 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Blackpowdersmoke (Post 4229428)
Grouse...

I was being a wizeazz. I've been shooting and hunting with flintlocks for 39 years and know how to use them in fair and foul weather so I seriously doubt you know any tricks that I don't already know. I don't use T7 powder in my flinters and have no intentions of doing whatever you may suggest to use it, I prefer black powder thank you!

And anyone who says they've never had a klatch, a flash in the pan, hangfire or just plain missed with a flintlock is more than likely not telling the truth!!

BPS

Hunted quite a bit in Pa with a flinter. Never had a hang fire, flash in the pan, bad strike, wet powder. Never missed a deer with a flinter either. Now, if you believe that, I have a couple good business ideas that require $100,000 investments (no terms) so feel free to drop me a line :D

Champlain Islander 11-21-2015 01:20 PM

Let me step in here and head off trouble before it happens. Please be considerate to members who don't share your ideals and or methods. There are always several ways to tackle a job. People who want to hunt with more primitive weapons have that right as long as it is legal. More modern technology always have some improvements but it isn't anything that should generate an argument. I bow hunt with a high tech compound but certainly wouldn't trash someone who hunts trad. Just the opposite actually... I respect them for excellence using the basics.
Edit: this post isn't directed to anyone in particular. Just trying to keep the peace.

Grouse45 11-21-2015 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by Blackpowdersmoke (Post 4229428)
Grouse...

I was being a wizeazz. I've been shooting and hunting with flintlocks for 39 years and know how to use them in fair and foul weather so I seriously doubt you know any tricks that I don't already know. I don't use T7 powder in my flinters and have no intentions of doing whatever you may suggest to use it, I prefer black powder thank you!

And anyone who says they've never had a klatch, a flash in the pan, hangfire or just plain missed with a flintlock is more than likely not telling the truth!!

BPS

I've been with people who have been using Flintlocks for 60 years and still don't know what to do. Hunting and preparing for hunts are a serious hobby for me. Sorry I didn't notice the reason for jokes. I didn't see your post till later.

falcon 11-22-2015 01:32 PM

There is absolutely no substitute for short range. i put a .530 patched round ball in the ear of this fat 200 pound boar hog. Range=15 yards.


Grouse45 11-22-2015 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by falcon (Post 4229631)
There is absolutely no substitute for short range. i put a .530 patched round ball in the ear of this fat 200 pound boar hog. Range=15 yards.


Looks like a good one for sure.

1874sharpsshooter 11-22-2015 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by falcon (Post 4229631)
There is absolutely no substitute for short range.

And no substitute for lots of practice if you are going to shoot long range :)


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