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super_hunt54 10-12-2015 10:31 AM

Now isn't that just about as stupid a thing to do as can be? Filing out the Pedersoli name but leaving the ITALIAN proof house marks on there? Sheesh, anyone that knows anything about firearms knows proof house marks and can see those are Italian PH's so that barrel is OBVIOUSLY not American made. At least I don't think any American barrel makers send their barrels to Italy for proofing :D

Blackpowdersmoke 10-12-2015 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by Semisane (Post 4222920)
Jon is right Blackpowdersmoke. The later Hatfield company did have guns made by Pedersoli and got caught removing the Pedersoli name from them.

Semi...

A later Hatfield Company??.... So was there an earlier Hatfield Company whose guns were American made as I was always lead to believe? Why does yours have an L&R lock and not a Pedersoli lock or is that not so as was the supposed GM barrel which is Pedersoli?

BPS

super_hunt54 10-12-2015 11:59 AM

So I'm assuming you didn't get the rifle you thought you got? Since that isn't a green mountain barrel? Wouldn't a Pedersoli barrel actually be worth more? I'm not as familiar as I SHOULD be with the GM vs Pedersoli values.

Slowburn 10-12-2015 12:18 PM

I have a .36 frontier from Pedersoli and I love it. It shoots great and is very reliable in igniting the charge. It seems to have a fairly quick lock time and I love to carry it hunting. I know you will really enjoy it. I must admit that yours has a far purdier stock than mine does. My is just a plain walnut stock but I love the way she feels. Good luck and enjoy...

Semisane 10-12-2015 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by Blackpowdersmoke (Post 4222939)
Semi...

A later Hatfield Company??.... So was there an earlier Hatfield Company whose guns were American made as I was always lead to believe? Why does yours have an L&R lock and not a Pedersoli lock or is that not so as was the supposed GM barrel which is Pedersoli?

BPS

BPS, regarding the "L&R Lock" tag on the picture in my original post. That has proved to be incorrect. It's a Pedersoli lock.

When I labeled the original picture I was going by research that said Hatfield used GM barrels and L&R locks. Well, that was true for the original maker, Ted Hatfield. He built them in St. Joseph, Missouri and the gun was supposedly a copy of rifles built by his great-great-grandfather, Moses Hatfield. It seems that somewhere along the way Hatfield sold the name/design to a group that became the "Hatfield" company, and at one point that company contracted production out to Pedersoli. They built the "Hatfield" guns with all Pedersoli manufactured parts, except for the American tiger striped maple wood used for the stocks.

Anyway, here's a corrected picture.


MountainDevil54 10-12-2015 12:58 PM

I believe their slogan at the time was "Uniquely" American Made. I'll have to check through some old magazines I have and see what I can come up with.

1874sharpsshooter 10-12-2015 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 4222952)
I believe their slogan at the time was "Uniquely" American Made. I'll have to check through some old magazines I have and see what I can come up with.

They were speaking of the stock :)

Semisane 10-12-2015 03:06 PM

Well, what's more uniquely American than a bit of slight of hand by a corporation? :o

cayugad 10-12-2015 03:50 PM

Well I don't care who built it or where the parts come from... I really like the rifle. If you ever decide you don't like it, call me ... we can talk.:)

Blackpowdersmoke 10-13-2015 08:21 AM

Semi...

I have a copy of Fjestad's "Blue book of Modern black Powder Values" from 2002. He stated that the guns were previously manufactured by Mountain River Rifle Works and then by Hatfield Gun Co. Inc. until 1996

The MSR at that time for the Squirrel rifle you have was $600...

Add $20 for flintlock
Add $65 for extra fancy maple grade II and $175 for hand selected grade III
Custom models could run 200% over standard

Maybe this will give you some idea of what you're rifle is worth.

BPS


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