Pre-Season Getting Readiness
08-07-2015 | 03:18 PM
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Boone & Crockett
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From: Idaho
Pre-Season Getting Readiness
This is kinda hard for this old guy to handle - but there is actually an Elk Season open in my area right now and goes to Sept 15. Cow elk only, it is called a Green Field Season. It is the Idaho Fish and Game's attempt to keep elk herds out of farmers fields during this portion of the year. The real problem is the TEMPERATURES - it is hot here.
Well anyway with this information I decided to head to the rock pit and make sure my Idaho Rifle Season Muzzleloader was still sighted in from last season. It was a cool morning - high 60's so I headed to the Rock Pit.
I always shoot my hunting ML's prior to the season so they are what I call 'Semi-Fouled' in that the bore has been shot and then wiped with a Windex patch. The bore remains in this condition all season so all shots from this point on are always on the same bore conditions. I know this is contrary to a lot of others and since I shoot T7 I have never had a problem with this procedure.
When I got the Pit, set up the shooting station the temp had risen to 74*. I wish it had stayed cooler but I was there so the shoot must go on... I walked down to the Basalt rock wall and placed 4 clay pigeons on the ledges. I also put out a paper target at approx. 100 yards, I really do not have a lot of fun shooting paper but I needed to test some 50x325's sabotless for a friend.
The Plan! was to shoot my normal elk load from the rifle at the birds to confirm POI. The rifle is sighted in for 120 gr. T7-2f a MMP HPH-24 sabot and a Lehigh .458x305 grain (45-70) bullet. The 305 is so long I need to use a tight sabot so there is no slippage in the bullet up the bore or in the sabot - to insure stabilization in a 1-28 twist bore.
#14 Knight Ulite with a composite thumbhole stock installed.
This is the 4 bird set up on the rock wall...
First two birds were easy prey for the 305's
At this point I decided to go the 50x325 Bloodlines on top of a MMP Sub-Bridge or Sub-Base which ever you prefer. The 325 were slightly knurled between to mil files to provide the grip on the bore needed to get stabilization.
This is the 50x325 showing the slight knurl and sitting on top of a Sub-Base.
Two more shots at the birds with this load combination and the birds were gone.
Next project was the paper target... with the 325's. Took four shots at the paper. #1 was me all the way not the rifle or the load - I just tried to get to perfect and loused the whole thing up. I loaded 3 more shots at the target and was much happier with those shots.
After shot number 3 which I could not find on the target with scope - I thought I had screwed up again - was really upset but decided to go down and look at the target. I really think shots 3 & 4 are nearly in the same hole. When I brought the target back to the truck - I tried to verify my thoughts. I plugged a 325 in holes #1 and #2 - the bullet fit very tightly and was hard to push through the plywood target backer. When I put the bullet in #3-4 hole it went very easily and fell out the other side. The whole is larger than the other two. When looked at the hole on the back of the target - I think it really shows the difference - so I am calling it a 4 shot group. The hole on the left being what I believe a 2 shot hole.
Got really hot -so I abandoned the Rock Pit!
Well anyway with this information I decided to head to the rock pit and make sure my Idaho Rifle Season Muzzleloader was still sighted in from last season. It was a cool morning - high 60's so I headed to the Rock Pit.
I always shoot my hunting ML's prior to the season so they are what I call 'Semi-Fouled' in that the bore has been shot and then wiped with a Windex patch. The bore remains in this condition all season so all shots from this point on are always on the same bore conditions. I know this is contrary to a lot of others and since I shoot T7 I have never had a problem with this procedure.
When I got the Pit, set up the shooting station the temp had risen to 74*. I wish it had stayed cooler but I was there so the shoot must go on... I walked down to the Basalt rock wall and placed 4 clay pigeons on the ledges. I also put out a paper target at approx. 100 yards, I really do not have a lot of fun shooting paper but I needed to test some 50x325's sabotless for a friend.
The Plan! was to shoot my normal elk load from the rifle at the birds to confirm POI. The rifle is sighted in for 120 gr. T7-2f a MMP HPH-24 sabot and a Lehigh .458x305 grain (45-70) bullet. The 305 is so long I need to use a tight sabot so there is no slippage in the bullet up the bore or in the sabot - to insure stabilization in a 1-28 twist bore.
#14 Knight Ulite with a composite thumbhole stock installed.
This is the 4 bird set up on the rock wall...
First two birds were easy prey for the 305's
At this point I decided to go the 50x325 Bloodlines on top of a MMP Sub-Bridge or Sub-Base which ever you prefer. The 325 were slightly knurled between to mil files to provide the grip on the bore needed to get stabilization.
This is the 50x325 showing the slight knurl and sitting on top of a Sub-Base.
Two more shots at the birds with this load combination and the birds were gone.
Next project was the paper target... with the 325's. Took four shots at the paper. #1 was me all the way not the rifle or the load - I just tried to get to perfect and loused the whole thing up. I loaded 3 more shots at the target and was much happier with those shots.
After shot number 3 which I could not find on the target with scope - I thought I had screwed up again - was really upset but decided to go down and look at the target. I really think shots 3 & 4 are nearly in the same hole. When I brought the target back to the truck - I tried to verify my thoughts. I plugged a 325 in holes #1 and #2 - the bullet fit very tightly and was hard to push through the plywood target backer. When I put the bullet in #3-4 hole it went very easily and fell out the other side. The whole is larger than the other two. When looked at the hole on the back of the target - I think it really shows the difference - so I am calling it a 4 shot group. The hole on the left being what I believe a 2 shot hole.
Got really hot -so I abandoned the Rock Pit!
08-07-2015 | 04:34 PM
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Nontypical Buck
Joined: Feb 2015
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From: Illinois
Looks ready to me. Guess I'm going to have to live vicariously through you guy's this year for Elk. Doc keeps holding off on my knee surgery so no way I can get anywhere to Elk hunt. Gonna be stuck here hunting these mangy little old Whitetails 
08-07-2015 | 05:12 PM
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Dominant Buck
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From: Wisconsin
The best of luck to you elk hunters. I was watching TV and videos of elk hunts and I really don't think the knee and ankle to take that kind of strain. And heaven forbid I drop one miles for a road. But I wish you all the best. I have been seeing a few deer around the house, so I am starting to feel better about that.
That rifle looks like a good rifle and an excellent load. It would be interesting to see that load in one of them bottle tests but at 100 yards, with your hunting charge.
That rifle looks like a good rifle and an excellent load. It would be interesting to see that load in one of them bottle tests but at 100 yards, with your hunting charge.
