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Old 08-06-2015 | 05:22 AM
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OK you Knight guys, help me out here.

I've never owned a Knight and know little about them. A guy in my area has and older .50 caliber for sale that he says has never been fired. He seems to know little about it also.

The picture he sent me is poor. Can anyone tell if this is this an MK85 or something else?



Also, I've heard that early Knights had various twists (1:48, 1:32, 1:28). Is that true.
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Old 08-06-2015 | 05:25 AM
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Looks like a MK85 to me. The twist can be figured out by the serial number on the barrel.
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Old 08-06-2015 | 05:40 AM
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Thanks Grouse. Is there a chart somewhere that links SN to rate of twist? I had no success GOOGLING it.

Since I've never had a Knight I'm thinking about buying it to play around with a bit, then selling it at a break even price. Assuming it's in top shape, what should I set as my top dollar offer?
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Old 08-06-2015 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Semisane
Thanks Grouse. Is there a chart somewhere that links SN to rate of twist? I had no success GOOGLING it.

Since I've never had a Knight I'm thinking about buying it to play around with a bit, then selling it at a break even price. Assuming it's in top shape, what should I set as my top dollar offer?
Found on another site. It may or may not include yours.

RIFLE MODEL CAL. TWIST RIFLE MODEL CAL. TWIST
CVA Apollo Carbelite 50/54 1:32
CVA Apollo Shadow 50/54 1:32
CVA Apollo Shadow SS 50/54 1:32
CVA Apollo Sporter 50 1:32
CVA Bobcat Rifle 50/54 1:48
CVA Bushwacker 50 1:48
CVA Colorado MusketMag 50 1:32
CVA Eclipse 209 Mag 45/50 1:28
CVA Elipse 50 1:32
CVA Firebolt 209 UltraMag 45/50 1:32
CVA Frontier Carbine 50 1:48
CVA Frontier Hunter 50 1:32
CVA Hunterbolt 209 UltrMag 45/50 1:28
CVA Mountain Hunter 50 1:48
CVA Optima Pro 209 45/50 1:28
CVA Panther Carbine 50/54 1:32
CVA Plainsman 50 1:48
CVA St. Louis Hawken 50/54 1:48
CVA Stag Horn 209 Mag 50 1:32
CVA Stalker Carbine 50/54 1:32
CVA Stalker Rifle 50 1:32
CVA Tracker Carbine 50 1:32
CVA Trophy Carbine 50/54 1:32
CVA Woodsman 50 1:48
CVA Youth Hunter 50 1:48
Traditions Buck Hunter 50 1:32
Traditions Buck Hunter 54 1:48
Traditions Buck Hunter Pro 50 1:32
Traditions Buckskinner Carbine 50 1:48
Traditions Crockett Rifle 50 1:48
Traditions Deer Hunter 50/54 1:48
Traditions E-Bolt 209 45 1:20
Traditions E-Bolt 209 45 1:20
Traditions E-Bolt 209 50 1:28
Traditions Evolution 50 1:28
Traditions Evolution 54 1:48
Traditions Evolution LD 45 1:20
Traditions Evolution LD 50 1:28
Traditions Evolution Premier 50 1:28
Traditions Hawken Mag Rifle 50 1:48
Traditions Hawken Rifle 50 1:48
Traditions Hawken Woodsman 50/54 1:48
Traditions Lighting Lightweight 50 1:28
Traditions Lightning 45 LD 45 1:20
Traditions Lightning Bolt Action 50 1:28
Traditions Lightning Bolt Action 54 1:48
Traditions Lightning Fire Sidelock 50 1:32
Traditions Magnum Plains 50 1:32
Traditions Panther Rifle 50/54 1:48
Traditions Pioneer 50 1:32
Traditions Pursuit (All Models) 50 1:28
Traditions Thunder Bolt-Action 45 1:20
Traditions Thunder Bolt-Action 50 1:28
Traditions Thunder Magnum 50 1:32
Traditions Tracker 209 45 1:20
Traditions Tracker 209 50 1:28
Knight American Knight 50 1:28
Knight Big Horn 50 1:28
Knight DISC Elite 45 1:30
Knight DISC Elite 50 1:28
Knight DISC Extreme 45 1:30
Knight DISC Extreme 50 1:28
Knight MHS DISC Extreme 45 1:30
Knight MHS DISC Extreme 50 1:28
Knight MK85 50/54 1:28
Knight Revolution 50 1:28
Knight T-Bolt 50 1:28
Knight Wolverine 50/54 1:28
Knight Wolverine 209 50 1:28
Knight Wolverine II 50/54 1:28
Lyman Cougar Rifle 50/54 1:24
Lyman Deerstalker Rifle 50/54 1:48
Lyman Great Plains Hunter 50/54 1:32
Lyman Great Plains Rifle 50/54 1:60
Lyman Trade Rifle 50/54 1:48
Ruger 77/50 Rifle 50 1:28
T/C Woods 50 1:28
T/C Big Boar 58 1:48
T/C Black Diamond 50 1:28
T/C Black Diamond XR 45/50 1:28
T/C Black Mountain Magnum 50 1:28
T/C Encore 290x45 Magnum 45 1:20
T/C Encore 290x45 Magnum 45 1:28
T/C Encore 290x50 Magnum 50 1:28
T/C Fire Storm 50 1:48
T/C G2 (.45 cal only) Contender 209x45ML 45 1:28
T/C Hawken 50/54 1:48
T/C New Englander 50/54 1:48
T/C Omega 45/50 1:28
T/C Renegade 50 1:48
T/C Scout Carbine 50/54 1:20
T/C Thunderhawk 50/54 1:38
T/C White Mountain 50/54 1:20
Savage 10ML (All Models) 50 1:24
Winchester X-150 Magnum 209 45 1:28
Winchester X-150 Magnum 209 50 1:28
Remington 700 ML/MLS Rifle 45/50/54 1:28
Winchester Apex Magnum 45/50 1:28
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Old 08-06-2015 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Semisane
Thanks Grouse. Is there a chart somewhere that links SN to rate of twist? I had no success GOOGLING it.

Since I've never had a Knight I'm thinking about buying it to play around with a bit, then selling it at a break even price. Assuming it's in top shape, what should I set as my top dollar offer?
Sabotloader and even Flounder33 are up on MK85's. Im not a fan of them at all. But I would say $250.00 would be my top price. wait for some other opinions on that. If you get the serial number I can get you the twist rate. I think some of those might of been 1/24 also, but really not sure.

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Old 08-06-2015 | 06:21 AM
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I am not think that is a MK-85. Reason the left side of the receiver is not correct to be a MK. On a MK the left side of the receiver is closed. Also it appears to be a round receiver instead of a flat top.

This picture somewhat shows the receiver of a MK



There was a series of rifles after the MK and before the first Wolverine that it could be - but I am not familiar enough with the evolution to tell you for sure the exact models.

I would guess it were in the LK series but could be an American Knight or even a Black Knight.

Just not sure
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Old 08-06-2015 | 07:42 AM
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Semi

I am not think that is a MK-85.

There was a series of rifles after the MK and before the first Wolverine that it could be - but I am not familiar enough with the evolution to tell you for sure the exact models.

I would guess it were in the LK series but could be an American Knight or even a Black Knight.

Just not sure
My father has a Knight that is inbetween the MK 85 and the LK93. The wood finish on his looks just like the picture the OP posted. I will have to check the model # next time I visit him.
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Old 08-06-2015 | 07:45 AM
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It is difficult for me to tell by the picture, Semi. For some reason my mind tells me it is the model T-5 which Knight had made for them in Italy back in about 93 or so.To me, it looks like it has a separate receiver unlike the Lk-93 which was one piece barrel/receiver. The sights look inferior than those used on the mk I've never owned a T-5 but it didn't have the best reputation and was soon discontinued by Knight.
If that's what it is, I would stay away from it.
I would try to get more info before making an offer.
Twist is most likely 1 in 28.
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Old 08-06-2015 | 05:40 PM
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It is difficult for me to tell by the picture, Semi. For some reason my mind tells me it is the model T-5 which Knight had made for them in Italy back in about 93 or so.To me, it looks like it has a separate receiver unlike the Lk-93 which was one piece barrel/receiver. The sights look inferior than those used on the mk I've never owned a T-5 but it didn't have the best reputation and was soon discontinued by Knight.
If that's what it is, I would stay away from it.
I would try to get more info before making an offer.
Twist is most likely 1 in 28.
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I agree with Art. If it's not a Mk85 I would stay away from it.
 
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Old 08-07-2015 | 05:41 AM
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That is probably a Wolverine. Def not an MK. Would be 1:28. Worth max $150 since its new, imo.
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