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Old 08-04-2015 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by super_hunt54
LMAO. Pete of course I believe him. Since they have never shot well for me!!! As I said in the other post, I have a tendency to believe empirical truth and it don't get much more empirical that proving it to me dang self!
Me either lol
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Old 08-04-2015 | 06:36 PM
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I know they don't work too, but not because Randy said it.
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Old 08-04-2015 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
I know they don't work too, but not because Randy said it.
I've learned a lot of things from Randy 6 to 8 years ago. But as much as you complain about him you sure know everything he says and does. And you mention his name all the time. Your probably his best supporter and you don't even realize it!!
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Old 08-04-2015 | 08:08 PM
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I read a lot of stuff. It doesn't mean I agree with it.

I even read your posts.
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Old 08-05-2015 | 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by super_hunt54
Well My TC has a tendency to really like the hotter side of charges. I tried from 100gr BH up to 130. The groups started on the lower side charges at around 8 inches and tightened up to 6 inches at around 120 grains then opened up a smidge to around 6.5 to 7 at 130. Prior to my switchover to BH I usually shot around the same charge weight with T7. But as I said, she likes it hot. I really wish I could find a bullet that I could back off to around 90 grains with her. Even with all that recoil reduction stuff in the stock it has a wollup to me poor old shoulder on the bench. It's negligible off hand but bench postitions just crack me up. Getting to where it even bothers me when I shoot left handed with the shoulder that's not been hurt as often.
Which T/C you shoot'n?

Prior to going custom, the Encore platform rifles I've owned shot 107grs (75grs weight) of BH with the Barnes 250gr TMZ bullets with outstanding accuracy to 200yds. Never had a problem with the supplied sabots and the TMZ is a boattail (which you know already) loading or failing. When I did my part, that combo printed nice 3/4" groups at 200.

T/C Pro Hunter 209x50
Nikon Monarch 2.5-10x50
BH209 107grs volume (75grs by exact weight)
Barnes 250gr TMZ bullets with supplied sabots
CCI209M primers
Loading force average: 52# (fouled)... (+/- 5#)
Bullet seating force average: 106# (2 handed thump w/"T" handle)... (+/- 3#)

Couple things I've noticed with my rifles: Keep the carbon cleaned from the flash channel (10 shots or so). The 52# loading force was not excessive, yet provided a great seal. All the rifles shot the best with a hard seated bullet on the propellant. We have used the Harvester https://www.harvestermuzzleloading.c...hk=1&Itemid=18 in a couple different rifles and the groups went south.

The 250gr bullet has more than enough energy remaining at distances to 200yds, has slightly less recoil than the heavier 290's too.

Boattail bullets can shoot excellent from some rifles with the proper combo.

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Old 08-05-2015 | 05:24 AM
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A suggestion;
If you have a compilation of data in text form so the comparison of bullets would be made easy for those of us who have trouble remembering our name could compare them to each other.
Some thing like
Precision Rifle 250g QT =2.5 jugs= expansion- 2 diameters
My thought is that each of use has certain bullets we know well and this would allow us to relate to the tests in more detail.
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Old 08-05-2015 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by lemoyne
ronlaughlin
A suggestion;
If you have a compilation of data in text form so the comparison of bullets would be made easy for those of us who have trouble remembering our name could compare them to each other.
Some thing like
Precision Rifle 250g QT =2.5 jugs= expansion- 2 diameters
My thought is that each of use has certain bullets we know well and this would allow us to relate to the tests in more detail.
Some thing like
Precision Rifle 250g QT = 2.5 jugs penetrated = expansion 2 diameters (pancaked)

Others may be termed (fragmented) or (mushroomed)...... something similar in description

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Old 08-05-2015 | 05:54 AM
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Ron's already spent a lot of time, effort and perhaps expense. Except for diameter measurement, what you're requesting is there. Give the man a break and collect for yourselves what he's already provided. Why invite Ron to do what you can?
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Old 08-05-2015 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Game Stalker
Ron's already spent a lot of time, effort and perhaps expense. Except for diameter measurement, what you're requesting is there. Give the man a break and collect for yourselves what he's already provided. Why invite Ron to do what you can?
No.
We have enough to do already
Go away with that suggestion
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Old 08-05-2015 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Grouse45
I've learned a lot of things from Randy 6 to 8 years ago. But as much as you complain about him you sure know everything he says and does. And you mention his name all the time. Your probably his best supporter and you don't even realize it!!
I disagree with him on a number of topics but i can say this for him....I have never seen RW recommend a load that may be excessive. I can't say the same about TB. Anyone who knows the TB/Savage history would know this as a fact. Some of the loads he has listed more recently for 400gr bullets in Traditions rifles are really pushing it too.

Ive read through a ton of RW's archived posts on another forum. Yes he can be rude and yes he could do better voicing his opinion. The last time he posted on Dougs he was far more eloquent than the old days on MML.
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