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Originally Posted by super_hunt54
(Post 4210815)
LMAO. Pete of course I believe him. Since they have never shot well for me!!! As I said in the other post, I have a tendency to believe empirical truth and it don't get much more empirical that proving it to me dang self!
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I know they don't work too, but not because Randy said it.
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
(Post 4210821)
I know they don't work too, but not because Randy said it.
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I read a lot of stuff. It doesn't mean I agree with it.
I even read your posts. :p |
Originally Posted by super_hunt54
(Post 4210800)
Well My TC has a tendency to really like the hotter side of charges. I tried from 100gr BH up to 130. The groups started on the lower side charges at around 8 inches and tightened up to 6 inches at around 120 grains then opened up a smidge to around 6.5 to 7 at 130. Prior to my switchover to BH I usually shot around the same charge weight with T7. But as I said, she likes it hot. I really wish I could find a bullet that I could back off to around 90 grains with her. Even with all that recoil reduction stuff in the stock it has a wollup to me poor old shoulder on the bench. It's negligible off hand but bench postitions just crack me up. Getting to where it even bothers me when I shoot left handed with the shoulder that's not been hurt as often.
Prior to going custom, the Encore platform rifles I've owned shot 107grs (75grs weight) of BH with the Barnes 250gr TMZ bullets with outstanding accuracy to 200yds. Never had a problem with the supplied sabots and the TMZ is a boattail (which you know already) loading or failing. When I did my part, that combo printed nice 3/4" groups at 200. T/C Pro Hunter 209x50 Nikon Monarch 2.5-10x50 BH209 107grs volume (75grs by exact weight) Barnes 250gr TMZ bullets with supplied sabots CCI209M primers Loading force average: 52# (fouled)... (+/- 5#) Bullet seating force average: 106# (2 handed thump w/"T" handle)... (+/- 3#) Couple things I've noticed with my rifles: Keep the carbon cleaned from the flash channel (10 shots or so). The 52# loading force was not excessive, yet provided a great seal. All the rifles shot the best with a hard seated bullet on the propellant. We have used the Harvester https://www.harvestermuzzleloading.c...hk=1&Itemid=18 in a couple different rifles and the groups went south. The 250gr bullet has more than enough energy remaining at distances to 200yds, has slightly less recoil than the heavier 290's too. Boattail bullets can shoot excellent from some rifles with the proper combo.  |
ronlaughlin
A suggestion; If you have a compilation of data in text form so the comparison of bullets would be made easy for those of us who have trouble remembering our name could compare them to each other. Some thing like Precision Rifle 250g QT =2.5 jugs= expansion- 2 diameters My thought is that each of use has certain bullets we know well and this would allow us to relate to the tests in more detail. |
Originally Posted by lemoyne
(Post 4210863)
ronlaughlin
A suggestion; If you have a compilation of data in text form so the comparison of bullets would be made easy for those of us who have trouble remembering our name could compare them to each other. Some thing like Precision Rifle 250g QT =2.5 jugs= expansion- 2 diameters My thought is that each of use has certain bullets we know well and this would allow us to relate to the tests in more detail. Precision Rifle 250g QT = 2.5 jugs penetrated = expansion 2 diameters (pancaked) Others may be termed (fragmented) or (mushroomed)...... something similar in description |
Ron's already spent a lot of time, effort and perhaps expense. Except for diameter measurement, what you're requesting is there. Give the man a break and collect for yourselves what he's already provided. Why invite Ron to do what you can?
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Originally Posted by Game Stalker
(Post 4210870)
Ron's already spent a lot of time, effort and perhaps expense. Except for diameter measurement, what you're requesting is there. Give the man a break and collect for yourselves what he's already provided. Why invite Ron to do what you can?
We have enough to do already :hit: Go away with that suggestion :throw: |
Originally Posted by Grouse45
(Post 4210823)
I've learned a lot of things from Randy 6 to 8 years ago. But as much as you complain about him you sure know everything he says and does. And you mention his name all the time. Your probably his best supporter and you don't even realize it!!
Ive read through a ton of RW's archived posts on another forum. Yes he can be rude and yes he could do better voicing his opinion. The last time he posted on Dougs he was far more eloquent than the old days on MML. |
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