Originally Posted by sabotloader (Post 4209950)

Mulely - had you made these simple statements early on this thread I think most everything that has occurred previously would have been a non-issue.

And the worst part - I agree with both points (not that the points you made are the worst part) - but the fact that I agree with you on these two statements and I would like to think that I am a 5% ter)

And finally even though whole thing got blown up - It really might provide some folks some valid information provided they would/will take the time to read through the whole thing.

Originally Posted by sabotloader (Post 4209950)

And finally even though whole thing got blown up - It really might provide some folks some valid information provided they would/will take the time to read through the whole thing.

Originally Posted by super_hunt54 (Post 4209952)

My own well known opinion of Powerjunks is not to recommend them to ANY hunter.

Now, lets look at a couple of things here. After dressing out hundreds of whitetail over many years I feel I know the anatomy of a whitetail fairly well. Looking at those pics you posted Pete, the entry of that bullet was most definitely NOT "through" the shoulder. Behind the shoulder maybe catching a TINY bit of cartilage at a steep quartering towards MAYBE but for that bullet to enter the rib cage where it did, a deer would have had to dislocate it's shoulder back by several inches. Also, in that first pick, the entry wound with the coin beside it, that right there shows a bullet FAILURE in itself. To create a wound that large in the hide on entry meant violent expansion upon contact of the HIDE. That sir is the pure definition of failure. Had that bullet even touched the shoulder that deer would have been in another county with a severely blown out shoulder and probably dying from an infection or predators.

Did the deer die? Yep by pure luck because it was most certainly a bullet failure. One of thousands reported by hunters using powerjunks every year.

Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 4209953)

I thought I just said I don't recommend PB's to anyone. Most of those are new to muzzy's.

I've always been unsure about PB's. Over time I started to change my mind, and question some of the failing reports. Even if i've killed 50 animals with them. I still wouldn't recommend them. I know under the wrong conditions they can fail.

I can only control myself when using PB's.

Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 4209956)

The person making the shot said it was a shoulder shot. That's what I passed on. Since the deer is dead. It's hard to say the bullet didn't work.
You have a strong opinion of PB's. Have you ever used one and had it fail?

Originally Posted by sabotloader (Post 4209958)

See! I think for you that PB's might work very well! and I am making a bunch of assumptions here but I think I will be close the base.

1. Basically you really are a PRB shooter/hunter and have been for ages and ions. You have learned what to expect from a PRB
2. You use very moderate charges of powder - basically you not a fan of recoil.
3. You are really not interested in extended ranges - you stay within a given range for the projectile you are using.
4. You are not a fan of tracking - your shot will be taken with a very high degree of calculation to nearly guarantee your quick success.

Just a few thoughts to help explain why the PB might work for you.

Originally Posted by sabotloader (Post 4209959)

Cecil is dead also - but I know that is not the type of harvest that you would be willing to do.

Just because in the end the harvest is completed - I really do not think that should be the primary goal! I would/will always want a Quick/Clean on the spot harvest.

Originally Posted by Grouse45 (Post 4209960)

Sabot loader,
All Powerbelts failed for me with two 777 pellets. That's what I first started using and really didn't know better. Back then I just thought that was the norm and the bullet was fine. I believe today most people don't know any better and think it's fine.