T/C Triumph Bone Collector Mis-fires
#62
It certainly can happen even to SS barrels. You just have more time with SS. Pyrodex is plain terrible as far as rust goes. I would rather use real BP than Pyrodex.
If you want to use BH209 over an extended period on a fouled bore, dry swab to remove most of the fouling. Extended to me is a 3 day weekend without any rain.
If you want to use BH209 over an extended period on a fouled bore, dry swab to remove most of the fouling. Extended to me is a 3 day weekend without any rain.
#63
Nontypical Buck
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From: Rapid City, South Dakota
Yes, i agree, one pass with a dry patch, should greatly help reduce the chance of rust when using Blackhorn. After one pass with a dry patch, my rifle barrels look shiny clean, even though i know they aren't. Using a patch with solvent proves the barrel wasn't clean.
The use of one dry patch removes the bulk of the loose burnt stuff, and theoretically should put off rust for quite awhile. It may also help with the first shot flier.
The use of one dry patch removes the bulk of the loose burnt stuff, and theoretically should put off rust for quite awhile. It may also help with the first shot flier.
#64
Thanks super hunt54. Saved the target and took a picture. Soon as I get more bullets in I will shoot again and see if it is repeatable. Still not sure how I will use it during the hunt if I am stuck with this. Just to be clear, ya can't hunt for days with a uncleaned barrel will badly corrode the barrel right?
#65
Fork Horn
Joined: Dec 2014
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From: Virginia
Guarateed rust is why I returned my unopened container of Pyrodex to Cabelas yesterday. Returned my Hornady One Shot Cleaner. Returned my two 20pks of Barnes XPBs.
I walked out with a new Range Rod, 50pk of 44 cal Harvester Crushed Ribs and a 50pk of Hornady XTP 300 gr.
I walked out with a new Range Rod, 50pk of 44 cal Harvester Crushed Ribs and a 50pk of Hornady XTP 300 gr.
So what are you using for powder these days? You don't like BH209, triple seven, or pyrodex...
#66
Nontypical Buck
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I would be careful about how long I left the barrel dirty on a triumph. The one I had that my father in law has now did rust and all that has ever been shot through it has been Blackhorn209.
In fact, this past gun season he brought the gun up to my house afterwards because the breechplug was stuck. I thought it may have been the threads but after working it out the threads were fine but the end was covered in rust (breechplug end now pitted) and so was the breech area. This is actually the second time this has happened so I have told him to forget about leaving that gun dirty for very long. I have not had a problem in stainless guns after leaving them dirty for weeks but blued guns and that Triumph has not been so well.
In fact, this past gun season he brought the gun up to my house afterwards because the breechplug was stuck. I thought it may have been the threads but after working it out the threads were fine but the end was covered in rust (breechplug end now pitted) and so was the breech area. This is actually the second time this has happened so I have told him to forget about leaving that gun dirty for very long. I have not had a problem in stainless guns after leaving them dirty for weeks but blued guns and that Triumph has not been so well.
I never had a breechplug even come relatively-close to freezing-up using Blackhorn. I use the white plumbers teflon tape on mine. I give all threads two layers of protection. Then magic appears when I clean that breechplug. I would say 80% of that teflon tape comes up missing........ poof..... gone..... MIA.... like in a Randy Wakeman Magic Show in a Chicago 150-seat nightclub.
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#68
I wonder if dad-in-law was exposing his already shot ML to a mix of high indoor and low outdoor temps, allowing that gun to sweat for multiple days / times? That probably increased his odds for rusting. Moisture may be the reason the non-treated breechplug threads and edges froze-up.
I never had a breechplug even come relatively-close to freezing-up using Blackhorn. I use the white plumbers teflon tape on mine. I give all threads two layers of protection. Then magic appears when I clean that breechplug. I would say 80% of that teflon tape comes up missing........ poof..... gone..... MIA.... like in a Randy Wakeman Magic Show in a Chicago 150-seat nightclub.
I never had a breechplug even come relatively-close to freezing-up using Blackhorn. I use the white plumbers teflon tape on mine. I give all threads two layers of protection. Then magic appears when I clean that breechplug. I would say 80% of that teflon tape comes up missing........ poof..... gone..... MIA.... like in a Randy Wakeman Magic Show in a Chicago 150-seat nightclub.

I keep the BP threads bone dry when using BH. It spins right out everytime. They'll tell on their site that nothing is needed on the threads.
#70
Not to mention altitude change means temperature change as well as moisture density. That equals condensation in the barrel. Stick with the plan, clean your bore down well for EVERY shot, cool it, and basically shoot it at the range every shot as a cold clean bore. Figure where that shot is hitting at consistently.


