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ronlaughlin 06-08-2015 04:06 PM

Why would i wish to leave a gap in the jugs, when the deer i am looking to kill has no gap. Are you suggesting i should try for 3 deer with one shot? :biggrin:

Muley Hunter 06-08-2015 04:13 PM

You'll need a bigger bullet for that.

1874sharpsshooter 06-08-2015 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 4201607)
You'll need a bigger bullet for that.

Why is that ? A 250 gr shockwave will kill 2 deer at over 200 yards . So that one should be able to kill 3 , although more powder is recommended :)

super_hunt54 06-08-2015 04:29 PM

I have no clue why some people are under the impression that a 2 or 3 inch air gap will slow a bullet! It has absolutely NO effect whatsoever.

Muley Hunter 06-08-2015 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by 1874sharpsshooter (Post 4201609)
Why is that ? A 250 gr shockwave will kill 2 deer at over 200 yards . So that one should be able to kill 3 , although more powder is recommended :)

Show me. :p

ronlaughlin 06-08-2015 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by super_hunt54 (Post 4201586)
Looks like it was just under velocity for opening up. It opened a slight bit, just didn't have enough speed to completely "petal" out. Looks like it passes the penetration test with flying colors though!

Yes, i agree.

Salar600 06-08-2015 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by ronlaughlin (Post 4201605)
Why would i wish to leave a gap in the jugs, when the deer i am looking to kill has no gap. Are you suggesting i should try for 3 deer with one shot? :biggrin:

Naa...

I agree that deers aren't made with gaps!!! but the media used for your test is not like flesh and bone neither.

I just think the gap between jug help to slow down the bullet more efficiently than one large container. Every time the bullet hit a new jug it encounter a new hydraulic resistance.

Anyway it is just personal preference. Keep posting range report, it alwas interesting to read.

ronlaughlin 06-09-2015 10:07 AM

Made it out again this morning. This VIDEO shows what transpired.
















The chronograph was placed at 13 feet, and it measured a speed of 2170 fps. This calculates to a muzzle velocity of 2190 fps. The powder charge was 130g Blackhorn. Distance from rifle to the jugs was 25 yd, and at that range the bullet was traveling at about 2070 fps. The bullet was apparently two pieces when it entered the fourth jug, which one sees in the following photo.









Part of the bullet stayed in the fourth jug; most of the bullet seems to have exited out the right side, which one can deduce from the hole in the side of jug 4 shown in the next photo. The fifth jug is intact, and the piece of the bullet left behind in the fourth jug is shown sitting on top of the fifth jug.









Muley Hunter 06-09-2015 11:32 AM

Federals new Powerbelt?

super_hunt54 06-09-2015 12:08 PM

Not impressive to me anyway. Looks like it fragments way to easily. Think I'll stick to the plan and use the Barnes.


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