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hubby11 01-27-2015 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by rafsob (Post 4182277)
Are you paying attention to the conversation??? We are talking about knowing what is private property!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know about trespass laws in Va. I was a cop for 15 years here!!!!!

I don't have time to go into all the volumes of levels of the trespass laws on the books here now. Please lets get back to the subject of knowing or not knowing what is private LAND!!!!! JEEEEEZZZZ

This has gotten interesting, and despite the fact that rafsob may need to switch to decaff ;), I’m going to continue this partial hijack of the thread since I think it’s pretty important.

The issue is whether the hunter has the responsibility to know if he or she is hunting on private property, even if it is not posted. And for Virginia, I am pretty sure the answer is yes. Hunting on private land without permission, is trespass.

In most cases, to be guilty of trespass, there is a requirement of notice, meaning you cannot be found guilty unless you were first told to get off or not get on the land in question. Posting the boundaries takes care of this. But hunting may be somewhat unique in that even without notice, you can still be guilty of trespass.

Two laws in VA talk about the difference between hunting on non-posted and posted private land.

§ 18.2-132. Trespass by hunters and fishers.

Any person who goes on the lands, waters, ponds, boats or blinds of another to hunt, fish or trap without the consent of the landowner or his agent shall be deemed guilty of a Class 3 misdemeanor.

§ 18.2-134. Trespass on posted property.

Any person who goes on the lands, waters, ponds, boats or blinds of another, which have been posted in accordance with the provisions of § 18.2-134.1, to hunt, fish or trap except with the written consent of or in the presence of the owner or his agent shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.

With the first law, notice is not required. Nor does the person have to know that the land is private property. With the second law, the penalty is worse because the hunter was put on notice to stay off.

I have hunted on both WMAs and National forests. In both cases, the public land boundaries are often fairly well marked. Some remote areas are not but that’s my problem, not the private landowner.

Sorry for somewhat hijacking your thread, BarnesAddict, but as I said, this could be important stuff. Now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

rafsob 01-28-2015 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by Grouse45 (Post 4182288)
...Deleted by CalHunter... I'll do my best to follow the rules or have an idea were I'm aloud and not.

...Deleted by CalHunter...

Muley Hunter 01-28-2015 06:51 AM

Don't leave your buttons exposed. ;)

rafsob 01-28-2015 07:00 AM

And another great pearl of wisdom from none other then Muley Hunter. I bet you got beat up a lot in school for sticking your nose in other folks business?!?! I guess I should have known you would stick your nose under this tent!!! :poke:

Muley Hunter 01-28-2015 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by rafsob (Post 4182403)
And another great pearl of wisdom from none other then Muley Hunter. I bet you got beat up a lot in school for sticking your nose in other folks business?!?! I guess I should have known you would stick your nose under this tent!!! :poke:

Cripes! I was being friendly, but that's pretty hard with a cop attitude.

I wasn't butting in. I started the conversation about private property, and it was directed at you. I thought cops were suppose to keep track of the facts?

No, you're wrong again. I didn't get beat up. I did the beating.

rafsob 01-28-2015 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 4182405)
Cripes! I was being friendly, but that's pretty hard with a cop attitude.

I wasn't butting in. I started the conversation about private property, and it was directed at you. I thought cops were suppose to keep track of the facts?

No, you're wrong again. I didn't get beat up. I did the beating.

If so, my bad friend!!!!! :party0005:

Muley Hunter 01-28-2015 07:15 AM

Ahhh cmon. That was too easy. I was ready for a good fight. :D


Ok...:party0005:

Bbj270 01-28-2015 08:06 AM

It's your responsibility to know where you are and the property boundaries. stupidity and lack of respect for others land is no excuse no matter what your occupation is or was.

rafsob 01-28-2015 08:26 AM

:violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin:

Grouse45 01-28-2015 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by rafsob (Post 4182396)
...Deleted by CalHunter...

...Deleted by CalHunter...


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