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Old 01-20-2015 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by lemoyne
Swiss black Pyrodex or Blackhorn are soo much nicer and on top of that in this area 777 cost me just as much as Blackhorn and its getting to the point where its harder to find.
You know that really bugs me a bit... I was sure that the sales of BH would drive the price of T7 down with the popularity and demand for BH. Thought it might be a real boom for me but the opposite is happening. Hodgdon's is increasing the price! Around this area it has gone from $20 a pound to $24 and you would think the opposite should be happening.

BH is still hanging in there at about $32 for a 10 ounce bottle of powder. So at least it is holding the line.
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Old 01-20-2015 | 09:05 AM
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At the local gun shop I go to triple seven was 19 a pound and Blackhorn was 31,local Wal Mart triple 7 is 24 a pound.When I went into Dicks Sporting Goods to see if they had any sales on Black powder supplies.I thought I was in a different world,all the powder was 40 bucks or more and the bullets where up there.Muzzleloading used to be inexpensive.Only one place a round my area that sells Black Powder that I know of and I don't have a clue how much it is.I guess I will soon find out,since I am going to get the flint lock off the wall.
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Old 01-20-2015 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by sabotloader

Shotgun Primers

Winchester 209ML ........................221 f.p.s.
Winchester 209 Triple Seven ML......244 f.p.s.
Remington 209 Kleanbore ML .........318 f.p.s.
Std. Winchester No. W209A ...........336 f.p.s.
Remington STS.............................338 f.p.s.
Std. Remington No. 209 ................341 f.p.s.
Cheddite No. 209 .........................347 f.p.s.
CCI 209M.....................................379 f.p.s.
Federal No. 209A ..........................381 f.p.s.

Rifle/Pistol Primers

Winchester WSP "Small Pistol" ….......116 f.p.s.
Winchester WSR "Small Rifle" ..........143 f.p.s
Sabot Loader,

I've seen rankings of primers from coolest to hottest, but haven't seen this f.p.s data before. What is the f.p.s. data? Is this the velocity of some projectile shot with the primer only? In a shotgun or a muzzle loader? Did you do the testing?

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Old 01-20-2015 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill308
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I've seen rankings of primers from coolest to hottest, but haven't seen this f.p.s data before. What is the f.p.s. data? Is this the velocity of some projectile shot with the primer only? In a shotgun or a muzzle loader? Did you do the testing?

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Bill, I did not do the testing. It was from a 50 cal ML shooting a measured projectile only through a chrono.

I am not sure what the projectile was but it was the same projectile for each test.

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Old 01-20-2015 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill308
......I've seen rankings of primers from coolest to hottest, but haven't seen this f.p.s data before. What is the f.p.s. data? Is this the velocity of some projectile shot with the primer only? In a shotgun or a muzzle loader?.....

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Quite a while ago, i set up in my garage, and shot sabots propelled by primer only through a chronograph. The speeds kinda sorta closely match the speeds posted by sabotloader. It was difficult to get repeatable data, but in the end it seemed i succeeded. One thing i can write with certainty, is my results agree perfectly with those posted by sabotloader, as far as ranking primers.

The thing that surprised me the most when i did my test, was how filthy the different prmers were, and how they plugged the flame channel so much. The breech plug had to be removed, and a drill used, to scrape away the deposit in the flame channel, in order to continue with the test.

The dents in the garage door, made by the sabot, are still there.
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