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Old 12-29-2014, 08:31 AM
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I picked up a new CVA Wolf yesterday for my daughter. It was on her Christmas list but so was a LOT of other items. I just happened to stop by Wal-Mart yesterday and had to stroll through sporting goods and could not believe what I saw. The price tag on the last one that they had read $98.00!!!!! I couldn't let that deal pass by. My daughter is almost 12 and she's a little stout for her age. Could someone recommend how many grains of Blackhorn 209 we should start with. I'm going to order some 200gr Bloodlines to see how they perform out of it. Oh, she shoot a .243 and a 20ga shotgun with no problem.

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Old 12-29-2014, 08:46 AM
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Bigtimer - the guys that shoot BH209 are probably better suited to answer your question. But from what I've seen on here I think BH209 works best with heavier charges (like 100+ grains).
I was just down Wal-mart and picked up two canisters of Pyrodex RS on sale. With that I know you could start with 80 grains and still have plenty of power to take down a deer.
BTW congrats on the deal. I hope your daughter likes it.
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Old 12-29-2014, 08:47 AM
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I would say "98" grains.
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Old 12-29-2014, 09:04 AM
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You should be able to find a nice sweet spot between 70 and 85 grains for your daughter. Is the factory Wolf breechplug suited to fire BH209 well?
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Old 12-29-2014, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Palehorse View Post
I would say "98" grains.
Great answer!

Bigtimer, that is a great deal for sure! Make sure you pick up a BH209 breechplug for it.
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Old 12-29-2014, 09:22 AM
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Wow, I wasn't aware that I needed a different breech plug for it. Where might find this breech plug for BH209?
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Old 12-29-2014, 09:46 AM
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Yeah, you need to put in the BP made for BH209 to reliably shoot it. I know you can get it from Western Powders, or CVA, not sure if other places sell them. I don't own these guns, but from what I've heard the Western plug is better. Maybe others can chime in.

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Old 12-29-2014, 11:40 AM
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I would not get the one from western powders, it comes with an o-ring to put under the primer. I think I remember hearing they wear out after about 16 shots.
Here is the CVA BH 209 breech plug for about $5.00 less than you can buy it at CVA. http://www.lg-outdoors.com/proddetail.asp?prod=80873 you don't need a rubber o-ring.
I would start your daughter out at 80 grains of BH 209 powder and increase it by 5 grains, until she says she is comfortable with the shot. Good Luck and Good Shooting.
I checked one more place since the other was out of stock https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.c...r_Loose_Powder This one is out of stock also. gives you 2 places to check back with.
CVA.Com is also out of the BH 209 Breech plug. Between one of the three I would think you would find one in stock soon, its a hot item.
I have been using the CVA breech plug for 2 years and never had an issue.
Note: Use a 1/8" drill bit to clean the flash channel every 3 to 6 shots, The flash channel is the channel under the primer. Put black tape around the shank of the bit until you can grip it firmly. Use finger pressure only.

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Old 12-29-2014, 11:52 AM
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The o ring is only to be used if you have blowback caused by headspace issues which can be hit or miss with CVA's. Buy the Western Powders BH breech plug. It is the better of the two breech plugs.
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Old 12-29-2014, 12:23 PM
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I purchased the breech plug to shoot BlackHorn 209 from CVA. Remember, when you install it... use the tool and really crank that thing in there the first time.

85 grains would be plenty. You could start her at 65 grains and see what kind of accuracy you get. My optima sweet spots in at 90 grains. Nice bargain by the way. I don't need another rifle but for that price, it would have come home with me too.
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