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bronko22000 11-09-2014 05:14 PM

Wow
 
I just watched a clip today on the outdoor channel about muzzleloaders and barrel obstructions. Using different MLs, Alan Trambil and another gentleman loaded the first one with smokeless powder. Another was loaded as normal with 150 gr of BP but the bullet was only seated 1/2 way down the barrel (mid barrel obstruction) and the 3rd was properly loaded the the muzzle was dunked into a cup of mud simulating fall without being removed.
The results were pretty dramatic. The MLs used were all inlines, a bolt action I didn't get the name of, a break open and a CVA Optima.
All 3 rifles literally exploded. The Optima with the mud in the end of the muzzle split the barrel with the top portion coming off at the breech. The bolt action with the smokeless powder as well as the mid bore obstruction exploded into too many pieces to count.
Please be careful out there. I wouldn't want to hear of any of you guys getting hurt. Don't get sidetracked when shooting - especially during the loading process.

Breechplug 11-09-2014 05:22 PM

NEVER! and Thank's for the Info ;)

BarnesAddict 11-09-2014 05:24 PM

I know of two (2) barrels that have ruptured this year. One shooter lost a thumb, the other was unhurt.

WITNESS MARKS ARE A REQUIREMENT, not an option.

Even not getting a bullet fully seated on the propellant, can cause a barrel bulge. IMO at that point, its time for a new barrel to be safe. Any bulge has weakened the barrel.

cayugad 11-09-2014 07:09 PM

Thanks for the reminder. We all need that from time to time. I like to think I am very careful about barrel obstructions and seated projectiles.

Another thing I have begun demanding is when I am on the firing line loading my rifle, I don't want anyone talking to me or asking questions. I find I have made more near stupid mistakes at that time of the process. When friends are over, I remind them... I'm loading and therefore out of bounds to everyone.

quake 11-09-2014 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by cayugad (Post 4168696)
Another thing I have begun demanding is when I am on the firing line loading my rifle, I don't want anyone talking to me or asking questions. I find I have made more near stupid mistakes at that time of the process. When friends are over, I remind them... I'm loading and therefore out of bounds to everyone.

Same here!

txhunter58 11-10-2014 03:53 AM

I shortseated a bullet one time and only one time. Luckily it was with BH 209. All that happened was the powder didn't explode, but the bullet popped out of the muzzle and landed about 15 ft from me. Boy was I lucky I was using BH 209 that day!!

grinder67 11-10-2014 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by txhunter58 (Post 4168730)
I shortseated a bullet one time and only one time. Luckily it was with BH 209. All that happened was the powder didn't explode, but the bullet popped out of the muzzle and landed about 15 ft from me. Boy was I lucky I was using BH 209 that day!!

Never have used that powder. Could you explain to me why it would react any differently than any other muzzle loading propellant? Not trying to start an argument here I really am just curious.Thanks

Muley Hunter 11-10-2014 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by grinder67 (Post 4168738)
Never have used that powder. Could you explain to me why it would react any differently than any other muzzle loading propellant? Not trying to start an argument here I really am just curious.Thanks

It takes some compression to fire. Unlike BP and all other subs.

ronlaughlin 11-10-2014 07:13 AM

So the chemical make of BP, and similar subs are similar?

The chemical make of Blackhorn is very different than BP, and the other subs?

Muley Hunter 11-10-2014 07:22 AM

Never said BP and the subs were the same, except they'll fire with no compression. BH won't.


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