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yeoman 03-03-2014 03:25 AM

209 primer issue
 
I was able to take the new to me MK-85 Hunter to the range yesterday. This gun has a bare 209 breech plug and appears unused. After the 1st shot, the spent primer was lying loose in the chamber. With subsequent shots the spent primer remained in the plug and grew tighter, until on #4 when it was not removable with the primer tool. I had to use a vice once home to extract it. Thought I might have to drill it out!
Anyone use a bare 209 conversion with a solution for this? Lube with grease? Enlarge primer chamber?

Pyrodex RS
Winchester 209w

cayugad 03-03-2014 06:17 AM

One thing I do that might help. Take some Q-tips with you to the range. Dunk them in a cleaner and swab out the inside of the primer pocket. Some primers produce a blow back carbon that forms on the inside of the primer pocket. The Q-tip removes that. It works for me. Or you can try some different brand primers. For normal powders I use the W209 Winchester primers.

WV Hunter 03-03-2014 08:04 AM

Never used a bare 209 setup in a plunger gun, so I can't really help you there.

I have used the red disc 209 setup once in my MK, I gained nothing and it was more hassle than #11's, so I swapped back to #11. To me, the #11 setup and knight plunger guns are a fantastic fit. They go together like PB & J :D haha

sabotloader 03-03-2014 08:22 AM

yeoman

I have also moved away from the the 209 primer in a plunger gun, especially a bare primer setup.

This picture shows some of the reason I have moved away.


yeoman 03-03-2014 01:15 PM

I would not mind going to #11 system as I have plenty of caps. Unfortunately, that would mean both a new breech plug and plunger, or machining the taper on this plunger flat. For now, I'll use Cayugad's Qtip suggestion and also try the T7 primers..... and continue wearing shooting glasses. Thanks.

d.winsor 03-03-2014 01:22 PM

I think the T7 209 primers are about the same dimensions as the W209 primers, I would check and see which primers are smaller, maybe some one else will know.

WV Hunter 03-03-2014 02:04 PM

If you can't get it narrowed down to work the way you want with the bare primer, you can buy a bp for cheap, especially the older versions (with the slot head).

I know a couple guys that have machined the cone off the face of their hammers - one guy did it with a dremel. Some guys even use the cone hammer, though it will likely ruin your nipple. Good luck.

yeoman 03-03-2014 02:33 PM

Yea, "the older version with the slot head", so I'd need to find and buy the BP tool also :(


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