Thompson Center Renegade 54 Cal Flintlock
#1
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 23
Thompson Center Renegade 54 Cal Flintlock
Hi
I built this from a kit 26 years ago. I shot it twice back then I'm looking for advice on what bullets and powder will work well with this rifle. I know about the patched round ball but are there other bullets out today that you dont need patches with I also saw a article about something called swiss black powder any help and advice would greatly be appreciated I would like to hunt white tail deer with this any info how many grains of powder for load etc.
I built this from a kit 26 years ago. I shot it twice back then I'm looking for advice on what bullets and powder will work well with this rifle. I know about the patched round ball but are there other bullets out today that you dont need patches with I also saw a article about something called swiss black powder any help and advice would greatly be appreciated I would like to hunt white tail deer with this any info how many grains of powder for load etc.
#3
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: River Ridge, LA (Suburb of New Orleans)
Posts: 10,917
There are several conicals you can try if you're so inclined gtonini. As Johnmorris stated, there are about a half dozen PowerBelt models and weights in .54 caliber, as well as the 425 grain Hornady Great Plains bullet and the 420 grain TC Maxi-Ball. But I'm of the opinion that in .54 caliber a patched round ball will do all that needs doing on whitetails.
Swiss powder has a good reputation. I've never used it so can't say any more that that about it. It's the most expensive of the black powder options and not as readily available as others. I've used GOEX for years with no complaints.
I have three .54s that I shoot round balls from, two caplocks and a flintlock. The flinter favors 95 grains of GOEX FFFg under a patched ball. One of the caplocks shoots best with a hefty load of 105 grains of FFg. But all of my barrels have a slower twist rate than your Renegade, which has a rate of one turn in 48" (1:48"). I suspect you will get the best accuracy with something in the 70 to 80 grain range, which is plenty for whitetails out to 100 yards. You just have to do some careful shooting over a bench to find the load your barrel likes best.
Good luck, and let us know how you're doing.
Swiss powder has a good reputation. I've never used it so can't say any more that that about it. It's the most expensive of the black powder options and not as readily available as others. I've used GOEX for years with no complaints.
I have three .54s that I shoot round balls from, two caplocks and a flintlock. The flinter favors 95 grains of GOEX FFFg under a patched ball. One of the caplocks shoots best with a hefty load of 105 grains of FFg. But all of my barrels have a slower twist rate than your Renegade, which has a rate of one turn in 48" (1:48"). I suspect you will get the best accuracy with something in the 70 to 80 grain range, which is plenty for whitetails out to 100 yards. You just have to do some careful shooting over a bench to find the load your barrel likes best.
Good luck, and let us know how you're doing.
#5
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: River Ridge, LA (Suburb of New Orleans)
Posts: 10,917
I use .535 home cast balls and .018 pillow tick patches with Liquid Wrench as the lube. It's a very tight load that takes a sharp whack on the short starter to get down the first few inches. After that it's easy to push down the bore. A .570 ball is easier loading and almost as accurate as the tighter load.
#6
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 5,425
No conical needed when using a .54 on deer...
Anywhere from 70-90grs FF or FFF Goex is plenty...
I'd start with a .530 ball and buy .018 patches and lube
with SnoSeal to start...
Sight in about 2 inches high at 50 yards and you will be
dead on at 75 and about 2-3 inches low at 100 with these
loads...
Anywhere from 70-90grs FF or FFF Goex is plenty...
I'd start with a .530 ball and buy .018 patches and lube
with SnoSeal to start...
Sight in about 2 inches high at 50 yards and you will be
dead on at 75 and about 2-3 inches low at 100 with these
loads...
#8
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 5,425
I have made my own balls since the early 80s, that way you have what you need...
I make .530s for my .54 and .390s for my .40...
I have both Lee molds and Rapine bag molds for my .54, only a Rapine for my .40...
If you don't want to make your own, order from Track of the Wolf...They even have .526s for .54s with a tight bore or for that quick second shot without swabbing...
I make .530s for my .54 and .390s for my .40...
I have both Lee molds and Rapine bag molds for my .54, only a Rapine for my .40...
If you don't want to make your own, order from Track of the Wolf...They even have .526s for .54s with a tight bore or for that quick second shot without swabbing...
#9
I use .535 home cast balls and .018 pillow tick patches with Liquid Wrench as the lube. It's a very tight load that takes a sharp whack on the short starter to get down the first few inches. After that it's easy to push down the bore. A .570 ball is easier loading and almost as accurate as the tighter load.
.530" ball. Your Renegade will shoot plenty accurately enough with round balls out to 100 yds once you find the right load combination and is all you need for deer. A conical would be quite a bit heavier and be harder on your shoulder.