I bet it would be fairly cheap as well. I would do it for sure.

I agree with one most of the post. If I were you I would ask to sent the complete rifle back. And ask if you can get it without the coating. Afterall the receiver and barrel are stainless.

Receiver is aluminum.

Breechplug makers have always lagged behind the "newest/bestest" powder. When Pyrodex was king, pretty much any breechplug would work. Then 777 came out and we had the infamous "crud ring". Breechplug makers went to work and designed a plug more compatible with less "fire in the hole". Then BH 209 comes out and they have to machine something totally different to increase the fire.

So it is pointless to run down another gun/breechplug because it doesn't shoot this or that powder well. They are all designed to do well for their special purpose and you can't compare apples to oranges.

Not sure what that has to do with weathershield coating, but of course, for those that have seen The Jerk, you know what the real "special purpose" is!

Print this out and tape it to your monitor. :D

If you or a close pal were taking the trip of a lifetime to Alaska, Africa, or some such, you would use, or recommend using, the made for Blackhorn breech plug, not the standard issue?

I would recommend just what I said I would.

There's a Western BP in my MR, but I didn't pay for it.


btw I did hunt with the standard BP when the CVA BP was available. I wasn't hunting in Africa though. :p

Mountain Rifle Problem Fixed!!!
 

Well got a call back from a very nice fellow named Brensen from customer service. He explained that I should use the rifle for this years hunting ML season as long as all is well shooting it. I told him it is a tack driver and that would not be a problem.

He said that after the season is over he will send me a call tag and have the gun sent back to the factory and replace it with a new gun. He assured me that the new gun will not have this problem. I am happy. Don't know of anything else the company could possibly do for me to make me any more happier.

Got to say the customer service folks at CVA are top notch!!!

I think good customer service is the key to success in todays competitive world. What is sad though is that if there was better quality control a person wouldn't need to be so worried about customer service. :s14:

Depends on who coated the parts? Was it CVA, or an outside source?

I don't think it was Bergara, because the receiver is done too.

CVA was good about my loose spot too. They gave me the paperwork to send the gun back. I might do it after the hunt.

I was talking in general.It seems that so many things now days just doesn't measure up to the quality I remember years ago. I got stuff that is 50 years old and still works versus junk nowdays that hardly lasts anytime at all.

True, but it's with everybody. I called TC with more problems than CVA. Actually, this is the first time i've called CVA about a problem.

Ever notice how everybody knows TC has good customer service? How do they know this. ;)

I know what you mean though. Old stuff was pretty reliable, or we weren't as fussy back then. :)

Trust me plenty of people has called CVA's customer service.

I did quite a few times, thats why I will never own a CVA again

Left a bad taste for me. If it wasn't for Carlos I would of never had a complete gun together.

I'm glad their customer service has improved. My ordeal was a few years ago and they treated me like I was a moron and they weren't willing to do anything. After 3 attempts I decided to give up and it has soured me every since on CVA. If it wasn't for that bad experience I probably would like to try the MR. But every time I hear CVA I think about my experience all over again.

Same reason I won't buy a TC. Among other reasons.

Mine was like a year and half ago? I actually got an Apex after my experience but I knew that Carlos would take care of me and that I wasn't dealing with CVA. It does sound like their customer service of lately is getting better though.

Interesting. I didn't know there was a different BP made especially for BH209 powder? I did have some problems with another gun and the guys at BH told me to use a stronger/hotter 209 primer.

Who is selling these breech plugs?

CVA and Western Powders (blackhorn209) sells them. I hear the one from Western Powders is better.

Does anyone make them for the non-QRBP for the older models. I haven't had any problems shooting BH in my Optima Elite but if the option is there I would probably get one.

I recommend the Western Powder version. It cost a little more than the CVA version, but it comes with the proper size drill and holder to clean out the flash channel.

You can buy directly for Western, or buy from Carlos for a better deal.

I don't think so. I've never seen one.

Ron can probably modify your BP to work better.

One way to come up with a breech plug 100% reliable igniting Blackhorn powder is shown in the following link.

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/blac...ification.html

I thought you did them for a small fee?

You are correct, i will do the modification, but i do the work for a large fee for the amount of work involved. It has long been my recommendation one do that work themselves.

Whatever the fee is post it. It would make more sense to send it out and get it done asap. That's just my thinking on this.

Antelope season starts Saturday, and lasts 2 week.

Muzzle loader deer season starts in 3 week, and lasts 1 week

Deer season starts in a 5 week and lasts a month.

Muzzle loader deer season restarts in 2 month, and lasts 6 week.

Deer season reopens the day after Christmas, and last a week.

Turkey starts in a week, and lasts 4 month.




No, i will not advertise to do work that could interfere with my freedom to hunt. The actual work takes about 15 minute, i am plenty willing to do the modification, and there will be plenty of time for me to do the work during any hunting season, but i cannot bring myself to advertise, and that's how it is.

My next question would be is the replacement BP the same style that is in our Accura Mountain rifle, the easy remove type???

I don't have any problems shooting the BH209 now with the CVA factory BP in the MR.

Takes the same plug.

Everything works the same.

Ron, you advertise all the time just like you did now. I could care less, PM the guy and tell him how much since it's advertising. Lol

$100/hour.

So then $25.00 for a 15 minute job. Sounds good to me.