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Muley Hunter 09-01-2012 07:46 PM

The truth is, you know nothing about CVA except some old model you had as a kid.

Not offended on my part. I might be if you knew what you were talking about, but not as things are.

Actually, i'd never be offended when I think about it. I didn't make the gun.

I do know it will out shoot a Renegade. :happy0157:

Semisane 09-01-2012 07:57 PM

Oh man. Here we go again!

Muley Hunter 09-01-2012 08:03 PM

Ron is fun.

No bad intentions.

bronko22000 09-02-2012 06:52 AM

Exactly my point - people open their mouth based on one experience. Ron, your example of a rifle (whatever the make or model) from 20, 15, or even 5 years ago does not hold any water today). Company policies change. A prime example is Taurus. Yes 20 years ago they were complete junk. Today they are a good quality reliable handgun. I'm not saying that a CVA Accura is the best thing since sliced bread because I haven't shot one yet. I did own an Optima Pro several years ago and I did like it. So that also helped with my decision. Same goes for the Triumph. I picked the model based on threads in here and from reviews form various online sources. Based on compiling all that information I deduced that the Accura is a better choice. Time will tell as I am not able to try it out yet. And I am not offended by the fact that I did purchase a CVA over an American made T/C. No one is more patriotic than I am. And I will fight that fact tooth and nail. But to say I am a hypocrite (no one used that word) because I did not buy American is absurd. I work for my money and scrimp and save to get enough to buy what I think is the best value for the cost and in this case I determined that it is the Accura. Wrong or right - it was my choice and you nor anyone else need to jump all over me because of it.
Saying a CVA or any other brand name is junk borders on idiotic. You get good and bad product in every line. Some more than others. If you bought a new Ford or Chevy or any other vehicle and it broke down on the way home would you say that they are all junk? Oh, wait you can't add Chevy into the mix because 7 out of 10 chevys sold are made outside the country.

bronko22000 09-02-2012 06:57 AM

Now that I got that off my chest - lets talk bullets.. :). Although I still am holding off on using BH209 because of the results I get with Pyrodex I would like to try the Lehigh bullets. Does anyone have any recommendation as to what weight I should try out of the Accura?

Muley Hunter 09-02-2012 07:14 AM

Don't let them get to you. You don't need to explain anything to them.

1874sharpsshooter 09-02-2012 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by bronko22000 (Post 3969303)
Now that I got that off my chest - lets talk bullets.. :). Although I still am holding off on using BH209 because of the results I get with Pyrodex I would like to try the Lehigh bullets. Does anyone have any recommendation as to what weight I should try out of the Accura?

250 gr lehigh with light blue harvester crush rib. That will probably be the best performer.

Gm54-120 09-02-2012 07:20 AM

How are you going to fit a .452 in a Harvester 45x40 sabot? :D


250 gr lehigh with light blue harvester crush rib. That will probably be the best performer.

sabotloader 09-02-2012 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by bronko22000 (Post 3969303)
Now that I got that off my chest - lets talk bullets.. :). Although I still am holding off on using BH209 because of the results I get with Pyrodex I would like to try the Lehigh bullets. Does anyone have any recommendation as to what weight I should try out of the Accura?

Bronco, what will you be hunting and what ranges? I have used the Lehigh/Bloodline for several years now and they have been a consistent performer for me.

Just as a thought... I have always called the .458-275 grain Lehigh/Bloodline the best all-around bullet of the bunch, as with its weight - velocity it can be used to harvest most everything. I would say it certainly is an over kill for deer but in the case of a big Muley buck or to even anchor a big Whitetail buck you would be in the ball park.

The question will be "How tight is the Accura Bore"... will it accept a .458 sabot. If it might be as tight as some have suggested you may be locked into the 44-45 cal bullets that offer a wider variety of sabots...

1874sharpsshooter 09-02-2012 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by Gm54-120 (Post 3969335)
How are you going to fit a .452 in a Harvester 45x40 sabot? :D

i was thinking 50 cal, since its a 45
in that case probably the 185 gr 40/45


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