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#11
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Dec 2006
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From: Minnesota
Everytime they think about allowing scopes in Minnesota there are quite a few people who lobby pretty hard to keep it open sights only. With an eye doctor's slip you can get a permit to use a 1X scope. For the distances I shoot I can get the job done with a peep sight, for now anyway.
#13
Giant Nontypical
Joined: Nov 2005
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I am surprised that the NRA has not gotten up a petition to the court to define laws that forbid 1x scopes as discriminatory against people that have to wear bifocals.
It is my opinion that iron sights being forced on people of an age that causes them to wear bifocals using iron sights causes a lot more wounded game!
It is my opinion that iron sights being forced on people of an age that causes them to wear bifocals using iron sights causes a lot more wounded game!
#14
Your right on with that. 50 yard shooting is a piece of cake with a 1x scope. Also their light gathering ability is hard to beat. Quick to get on target, and they make a great aiming device for me. One reason I went to them. I have a couple 1x on my Knight Wolverine rifles since I shoot them out of tree stands.
#15
For whatever it's worth I've heard there's a better chance than ever that MN will allow scopes this year. I'm skeptical it will happen, but I sure hope so. On the plus side we are allowed peep sights and smokeless powder, so we're good there.
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#17
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Aug 2008
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From: Rapid City, South Dakota
When i moved back to South Dakota, it had been some 40 year since i had fired a shot at a game animal with iron sights. The game laws required me to use iron sights on the muzzy. It, in fact, surprised me how many deer were killed successfully using the iron sight. Never once did i ever feel good about pulling the trigger on a critter, when i couldn't readily see the front sight. However, somehow, many deer ended up as venison on our dinner table.
I never felt it was ethical for me to shoot at deer using iron sights. I chose to do it anyway, and it, for some reason, worked just fine. I knowingly chose venison over ethics. This year i may be able to use a 1X scope. If so, that surely will be better. My eyes can clearly see cross hair, and critter at infinity in the same plane. If it turns out i cannot use optics on the muzzy, i will continue using the iron sights my eyes cannot readily focus on. Venison supersedes ethics in my life.
Right now, i am, for some reason, confident the game commission will approve the use of 1X optic for the upcoming season. Today, i dug out the 1X scope, and looked at various bases on the shelf. It seems it will be an easy task to get things working. Depending how other chores go, i may get the scope mounted on a brand new X7, and perhaps shoot it Monday. This will be good, because i will no longer have to choose between ethics and venison.
I never felt it was ethical for me to shoot at deer using iron sights. I chose to do it anyway, and it, for some reason, worked just fine. I knowingly chose venison over ethics. This year i may be able to use a 1X scope. If so, that surely will be better. My eyes can clearly see cross hair, and critter at infinity in the same plane. If it turns out i cannot use optics on the muzzy, i will continue using the iron sights my eyes cannot readily focus on. Venison supersedes ethics in my life.
Right now, i am, for some reason, confident the game commission will approve the use of 1X optic for the upcoming season. Today, i dug out the 1X scope, and looked at various bases on the shelf. It seems it will be an easy task to get things working. Depending how other chores go, i may get the scope mounted on a brand new X7, and perhaps shoot it Monday. This will be good, because i will no longer have to choose between ethics and venison.
#18
If the state feels like they want to keep the ML season primitive. That's fine as long as you have the eyesight for iron sights, and can take humane shots.
However, if someone doesn't have the eyesight for iron sights. The animals should suffer, and that person should be allowed to use a scope. No questions asked. Eye doctors can sign a form like they did for me.
However, if someone doesn't have the eyesight for iron sights. The animals should suffer, and that person should be allowed to use a scope. No questions asked. Eye doctors can sign a form like they did for me.
#19
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Aug 2008
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From: Rapid City, South Dakota
There is no provision for an eye doctor signature in South Dakota. Writing that i 'should' be able to use a scope doesn't make it happen. The regulation is for iron sights only. Using a 1X scope makes me a violator of the regulation. The law would rather have me follow the regulation than be ethical; that is what i have done. I am a law abiding unethical hunter with venison in the freezer.


