The U.N. Arms Trade Treaty
 

Guys, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton WILL be signing the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty on July 27th. I doubt there's any way the Senate will ratify it. But it will be in effect as U.S. Law until the Senate acts - and this is a Lame Duck session so who knows how long that may take.

Please use the link below to e-mail both of your Senators with something like this.

http://www.senate.gov/general/contac...nators_cfm.cfm


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thanks for the post. I contacted our senator and I hope others do the same. To ignore this and just think it is something that will never come to pass I believe would be a mistake.

I agree. Silence is taken for complacency by our "overlords". We must shout loudly every time anything comes up that threatens our Second Amendment rights. Make sure they know we are here, and we are watching.

The UN Arms Trade Treaty
 

I contacted my Senator and ask him to refuse ratification of the highly unconstitutional treaty. We Americans do not need the UN telling us how to run our country or what firearms that we may own. On several occasions I have contacted my Senator about such actions and I believe it to be a slap in the face of ever Veteran who has served this great country. It’s a shame that Liberals like Senator Clinton should be allowed to hold an office which she is incapable of performing and executing the duties. I fail to understand the way these so called leaders think. I can see that a possible destruction of our government is imminent in the near future. This is a shame.
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Emailed both of my Senators.

I Sent both of them an email.

First of all, I am very much a defender of the second ammendment and all our gun rights. When something like this comes along I generally try to find out what is really happening. Here is a link with another view:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/untreaty.asp

I agree that there are some in political power that would like to have our gun rights limited. However, the second ammendment is strong and is here to stay, it would take another ammendment to overturn it. That is not about to happen.

Now, I consider you all my friends here, but I hope you understand I am not an enemy of yours if I don't buy into every theory that someone is out to take our rights away. I am all for being vigilant, but....sometimes it borders on paranoia.

OK Flame me all you want now.... I've got broad shoulders. :patriot:

flounder33,
It’s your right to have a difference in opinion, but that right was given through the service of men and women in the military. I will still disagree with the interpretation of the statement concerning the UN Arms Trade Treaty. What the treaty does is control the import and export of firearms/weapons this will include muzzleloaders too. You may ask does this directly affect me and you may answer no it doesn’t; however, it does infringe upon Americans and American business. Would you be allowed to order or purchase a firearm made outside of the continental US? It would be doubtful because it is truly the first step in disarming American citizens. We already know that the Supreme Court will not defend the American citizens for the choice of elected political official’s decisions. I have been to several 3rd world countries who aren’t allowed to have firearms and several other countries that have revoked the people’s right to have ownership unless they go through a very large amount of red tape. Senator Clinton is a self-proclaimed liberal and is all about banning firearms. I value your opinion, but I ask you to do the same and look at the current administration. This is the first President who has been questioned about his birth certificate which he did provide at least 3 different ones I didn’t vote for Osama …oops, I mean Obama bin laden… dang it…. I meant Obama, but I did vote. This administration has passed a bill allowing homosexuals in the military and in the Congressional Library there is a letter by our current president proclaiming that he is the first to authorize: “NOW, THEREFORE, I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim June 2010 as Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Pride Month.”
Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/blog/jimmy-akin/president_obama_asks_you_to_celebrate_lgbt_pride_m onth#ixzz20GQKcc5W
Now what does this have to do with the Treaty and the Constitution? It has a lot to do with a Democratic Republic. I don’t want this type of unethical behavior and leader to make decisions and enforce his transgender opinions on my family nor did my forefathers and sons fight and die for this country and to be disrespected by this immoral administration. I still serve for at least a few more days and I lost my oldest sun 13 July 2006 on MSR Tampa south of Tikrit Iraq. I have even shed blood on foreign soil and I want nothing in return except to live my life free and be able to own what firearm I choose and feel that my country owes it to the Soldiers who have fought to uphold morals, ethics and values. I do respect your opinion and it is truly your choice, but please makes an educated decision and not just let politics rule you.
V/R
Mike

a president that hasn't visited our D day soldiers since 2010

Slow Burn,
Thanks for the civil reply. I respect your opinion. Believe me, we want the same things for us and for those to come after us.
Art

I try not to talk politics because I am very opinionated and I usually find that it is a good way to cause ill feelings. I believe that there are enough issue's in the world without adding my opinions that may vary from everyone else. I honestly would rather talk about guns. Yall take care.

V/R
Mike

Flounder, you have greater trust in elected officials than do I. Would you ever have believed there would be a law that required you to buy health insurance or suffer penalties and the possibility of seizure of your money or property by a new army of IRS agents expressly hired and trained for that function?

I have no faith that someone like Obama and his cohorts would not use the treaty to accomplish controls they can't arrive at any other way.

Remember, a ratified treaty essentially becomes law in the U.S., requiring/allowing administrative systems to enforce it. So consider some of the proposed treaty language that would require signers to prohibit/control sale of "small arms" that might....

- Be used to support, encourage or perpetrate terrorist acts."

Now, do you think it at least possible that someone of Eric Holder's ilk might interpret that the sale of a .45 ACP in your local gun shop "might" lead to any one or all of the acts described above - and therefore must be controlled by the Federal government so as to be in compliance with the treaty?

When a camel sticks its nose under the tent the best thing to do is kick the nose as hard as you can.

E-mail your Senator, dammit! :s2:

By the way, "transnational organized crime = Mexican/American drug cartels.

Check out this fox news article on the treaty
http://fxn.ws/N2MreC

It starts out like this:
UNITED NATIONS – *A treaty being hammered out this month at the United Nations -- with Iran playing a key role -- could expose the records of America's gun owners to foreign governments -- and, critics warn, eventually put the Second Amendment on global trial.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/07...#ixzz20Ls6o68G

firearms versus vehicle related deaths...
 

I wonder when they are going to create a ban on vehicle's? According the statics that I have read; they state that vehicle fatalities rank higher than firearms related deaths in the US.
http://www.datamasher.org/mash-ups/f...aths#table-tab
In the great state of Tennessee there were 15.4 firearms related deaths verus 22.8 vehicle related fatalities. We shall be walking soon....LOL
In the link above check out your home state and see how this all adds up. Guns don't kill; people kill people, guns are just a tool utilized to accomplish the deed. If a man has the intent to kill another man or committ a crime he will find away to accomplish the deed regaurdless. It is time for the American citizens to stand up and take the government back and place it in the people's hands and make the decisions on how we should proceed with this country. We have terrorists within the midst of our country. It is every citizens duty to defend and protect our rights according to the constitution the way it was intended. We have the right to remove these terrorist now. I can no longer remain silent about the way this nation has been run into the ground. I am not speaking in terms of politics but rather in the terms of our freedoms. I can only hope and pray that the blood shed of our forefathers was not in vain. We the people do not have to accept the president, Congress or Senate's ideology or their unlawful acts of terror against this great nation. Please take a stand and demand justice.

No disrespect at all Flounder, but try to buy a gun in Chicago or DC. The 2nd amendment isn't as "strong" as some would believe.

I wanted to share an email that I had just received back from one of the senators I emailed.

"Dear Chad,



Thank you for taking the time to contact me to express your concern about the rights of gun owners and the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty. It is good to hear from you.

The U.N. Arms Trade Treaty threatens one of the basic rights enshrined in America's Bill of Rights, the right of Ohioans and all Americans to keep and bear arms. This is why I, along with 44 U.S. Senators, sent a letter to President Obama and Secretary Clinton stating that a U.N. treaty infringing on the constitutional rights of American gun owners is unacceptable. I oppose the ratification of any treaty that restricts the rights of law-abiding Americans to manufacture, assemble, possess, transfer, or purchase firearms, ammunition and related items.

I am firm supporter of Second Amendment rights. My voting record is one of strong support for the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens to own and operate firearms. Like you, I believe that infringing on the rights of law-abiding citizens does not address the root causes of violence in our society. I will oppose any U.N. Arms Trade Treaty which affects the constitutional rights of American gun owners.



Thank you again for taking the time to contact me. For more information, I encourage you to visit my website at www.portman.senate.gov. Please keep in touch.



Sincerely,

Rob Portman
U.S. Senator"

Exactly.
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Here are the responses I received from my Senators - one Democrat and one Republican. Can you guess which is which?

Representatives contacted.Am watching this closely.

Thanks for being on top of this item Semi. I have contacted both my liberal senators and will hope the best.

My only question is how do the folks down there keep voting for a twit like this idiot landrieu. Her only qualification was that of her name. I hate dynasties. You know just like that big assed hilliry!!! As far as I know she knows how to bake cookies.

Sorry, I just can't help myself when it comes to that woman. She manages to bring out the worst in me.

Women can do that to a man sometimes:)

Done! Thanks for posting.

I got a response from both senators and if nothing else it showed me who not to vote for��

GEEZ must be an election year again and the cry goes out they want to take your guns away.

I do find it rather funny since I was sure Brady was a member of the GOP party and his family sponcered the last major gun bill that got passed.

Wonder how Switerland will stand on this treaty. A Nation that is nerual when it comes to wars in my life time and as I under stand their citizens are required to own a fire arm and attend regular pratice sessions with said fire arm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_pol...in_Switzerland


Or even Sweden a mfairly liberal country with National Health care too.
http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/sweden

Lots of other links to swedens gun laws and policiys.

:D Al