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rodwha 07-10-2012 10:07 AM

I really like the Pedersoli Country Hunter in that it has a twist rated for sabots (1:34").
I emailed Dixie Gun Works, who carries it, and was told that it's max load is a mere 50 grns. What?!?! Seriously?
Anyone know if that's just a gross safety statement or is this true? It certainly doesn't seem right.
I was really liking that rifle too.
I emailed them to see if I get a different response.
If that is the case I suppose the Lyman's Deerstalker is my rifle...

rodwha 07-11-2012 07:54 AM

A member of another forum found this for me:

Country Hunter .50 Flintlock

Powder Charge - 50 grains
Maximum Powder Charge - 100 grains
.490 Ball & .010 patch

I find it odd that Pedersoli gave the barrel a 1:34" twist and show the use of a RB. Will that work well?

sabotloader 07-11-2012 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by rodwha (Post 3950920)
A member of another forum found this for me:

Country Hunter .50 Flintlock

Powder Charge - 50 grains
Maximum Powder Charge - 100 grains
.490 Ball & .010 patch

I find it odd that Pedersoli gave the barrel a 1:34" twist and show the use of a RB. Will that work well?

I believe it would with a reduced powder charge like 50 grains - that really is not much of a powder charge.

rodwha 07-11-2012 11:38 AM

"Opinions will vary but my opinion is that your most reliable ignition in a sidelock will be with black powder. I am not saying the subs won't work cuz they will."

Are musket caps the same size as #11 caps?

sabot: "I believe it would with a reduced powder charge like 50 grains - that really is not much of a powder charge."

I asked Dixie Gun Works what the max was and the reply was 50 grns, which certainly didn't sound right at all. My ROA can come close to that w/o a wad using a RB I'd guess. 40 grns fits w a wad and leaving a slight amount of space between the ball and mouth.

sabotloader 07-11-2012 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by rodwha (Post 3950972)
"Opinions will vary but my opinion is that your most reliable ignition in a sidelock will be with black powder. I am not saying the subs won't work cuz they will."

Are musket caps the same size as #11 caps?

no different size completely


sabot: "I believe it would with a reduced powder charge like 50 grains - that really is not much of a powder charge."

I asked Dixie Gun Works what the max was and the reply was 50 grns, which certainly didn't sound right at all. My ROA can come close to that w/o a wad using a RB I'd guess. 40 grns fits w a wad and leaving a slight amount of space between the ball and mouth.
I fergit you are talking about a pistol right? I am thinking rifle.

rodwha 07-11-2012 12:18 PM

Rifle. I'm not concerned with reducing loads with a ROA and 777.

sabotloader 07-11-2012 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by rodwha (Post 3950985)
Rifle. I'm not concerned with reducing loads with a ROA and 777.

OK now I am on the same page I think... So then I go back to 40 grains is one heck of a reduction and should work well with a RB from a 1-34 twist. You just can not shoot a RB with much velocity from a faster twist barrel


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