It is a well known fact on these forum that shims are available to adjust the head space in TC rifle. It is also a well known fact on these forum that the head space of the Apex is unadjustable.

Most of the reviews i've read on the Accura have said it was the best trigger they ever flt on any muzzleloader. I feel zero creep in the ones i've owned. Even the low priced wolf has no creep. I showed it to my gunsmith one time, and he said it feels like a custom trigger.

When I squeeze the trigger I never know when it's going off. That's a sign of no creep.

The only TC I had was an omega. The trigger was just average.

So, there's two opinions on opposite ends of the scale. Try the triggers and decide for yourself.

Well of course! Most of the reviews are written by CVA advocates like yourself. I have long thought it strange that i could purchase 3 Accura, and all three have just a wee bit of creep, whereas all you advocate, write the trigger is just marvelous!

Another minor issue with CVA, is they are not reliable igniting BH209. Truly it is minor, and can be readily fixed, but it is an issue. CVA sells aftermarket, a breech plug that is reliable for igniting BH209, but you pay extra, and you must take the initiative to purchase one. Notice that you never read this in a CVA ad, nor did any of the CVA spokespersons here, mention this trivial little fact.

I said reviews. Not from owners. I'll see if I can find one for you.

I find it strange that none of mine had creep, and yours does.

Like I said. If someone is interested in buying one. Go try in first in a shop.

Here you go. I can find a lot more just like it. Notice his words.."zero creep".

http://www.americanhunter.org/articles/cva-accura-v2/

Normally I skip the threads about CVA. However this one is interesting.

Sorry MH, gunwriter with a test gun. The guy has too much knowledge about the manufacturing process. Details that obviously came from marketing brief. Also, he calls it a test gun. He also says "The model I carried was a..." And the final point, he says "Suspecting the trigger on my test gun had been adjusted by over-exuberant PR folks..." That means CVA gave it to him for evaluation. I work in the automotive industry. We call these events ride and drives. You can bet we go over each car in great detail before we allow the press to drive the vehicle with our technology under the hood. Gun makers do the same.

So, this review doesn't count.

You're too suspicious. You missed the part where he went to a shop and checked another one for pull. If it had creep. he would have said something. Creep is really noticeable when you check for pull weight.

The fact is. The triggers have no creep. Why don't you see CVA owners complaining about creep? Other than Ron, i've never seen it. You know everybody would complain if it was there.

make that Ron and one more.:biggrin: . My CVA's have creep, so do my T/C's the best trigger I have as far as a factory trigger is my Mountaineer.