It just doesn't matter
#1
At least not for now. Today I took the Lyman flinter back out to try Lemoyne's suggestion of using .535" balls.
Here's how it went today. Each load was shot at 50 yds using 100 gr of Goex FFFg, spit patch between shots and a thorough cleaning of the bore with T/C #17 between each group.
Group 1: Base line .530" ball/.020" Oxyoke prelubed patch
Group 2: .535" ball/.015" Oxyoke prelubed patch
Group 3: .535" ball/.018" Pillow tick liquid wrench lube
Group 4: .535" ball/.015" Oxyoke/ 100 gr Goex FFg
Results: Groups 1, 2, and 3 all came in at 1.5" for 3 shots (+/- a couple thousands). Group 4 with the FFg measured 1.9".
The .535"/.018" combo was a real bear to start down the bore. (Wish I would have had Semi's mallet). I did note that the FFg had more of an ignition delay than the FFFg.
Now I don't know if it make a difference or not but the .535" balls did have a larger spue cut tit than the .530"s that I had cast. I did make an effort to be sure this was pointed straight up when I started the ball.
So I guess for now I am just going to have to shoot the crap out of that barrel and get a couple hundred shots through it before I get serious. But even now, its definately a 75 yd deer buster for sure.
Here's how it went today. Each load was shot at 50 yds using 100 gr of Goex FFFg, spit patch between shots and a thorough cleaning of the bore with T/C #17 between each group.
Group 1: Base line .530" ball/.020" Oxyoke prelubed patch
Group 2: .535" ball/.015" Oxyoke prelubed patch
Group 3: .535" ball/.018" Pillow tick liquid wrench lube
Group 4: .535" ball/.015" Oxyoke/ 100 gr Goex FFg
Results: Groups 1, 2, and 3 all came in at 1.5" for 3 shots (+/- a couple thousands). Group 4 with the FFg measured 1.9".
The .535"/.018" combo was a real bear to start down the bore. (Wish I would have had Semi's mallet). I did note that the FFg had more of an ignition delay than the FFFg.
Now I don't know if it make a difference or not but the .535" balls did have a larger spue cut tit than the .530"s that I had cast. I did make an effort to be sure this was pointed straight up when I started the ball.
So I guess for now I am just going to have to shoot the crap out of that barrel and get a couple hundred shots through it before I get serious. But even now, its definately a 75 yd deer buster for sure.
#2
I used to have a .535 mold and made a lot of ball once. When I tried to load them in my Renegade with a .015 patch I had to beat them down the barrel. I shot two of them. And after that used the couple hundred I made as sling shot ammo. Which by the way they worked really good for. I ended up selling that mold to Semisane I think it was. But he then made some ball out of it (beautiful job) and they do load in my Lyman Trade rifle. They are tight, but I can load them.
Although the kind of groups you are shooting are more then acceptable. In fact I would be down right tickled to death with them.
Although the kind of groups you are shooting are more then acceptable. In fact I would be down right tickled to death with them.
#3
I don't like to look at bad groups for a 100+ shots. I gave my old GPR a good number JB strokes before ever shooting it. It loaded smooth, and shot good groups right from the beginning.
I used a .490 ball, .018 pillow ticking patch, mink oil lube, 85 gr of Goex 2f, 4f in the pan.
The same thing for the .54 I had, except .530 ball.
I used a .490 ball, .018 pillow ticking patch, mink oil lube, 85 gr of Goex 2f, 4f in the pan.
The same thing for the .54 I had, except .530 ball.
#4
Muley - this sucker doesn't like light loads. I am shooting best with 100 gr of FFFg. I really don't want to push past that. But even with this load, the recoil is really moderate.
I probably only have about 50 shots thru it right now.
I probably only have about 50 shots thru it right now.
#6
Boone & Crockett
Joined: Apr 2007
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From: River Ridge, LA (Suburb of New Orleans)
I just looked through my .54 GP target file and was really surprised to find that I've never shot over 95 grains of GOEX FFFg out of it. And that load shot better than any of the lighter loads. Most of the five-shot 50 yard groups are under 1.5". The 100 yard groups are around 4". I wonder if a stiffer load would tighten the 100 yard groups.



