Well, i messed up again. Just once i would like to be right, but i am always ron. The 300g Deep Curl i thought was failed to capture at 300 yard, actually was in the phone book. The phone book was given a cursory exam in the hills, and the bullet wasn't found. Upon returning home the phone book was searched very carefully for the bullet. It was noticed the bullet didn't seem to have passed all the way through the phone book. There didn't seem to be an exit hole, but the bullet wasn't there; i was sad.

This morning when i picked up the target frame which was laying in the back of the truck, i saw the bullet just sittin' there on the bed. The bullet evidently fell out of the phone book on the way home, and ended up under the target frame.

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The bullet passed through 2 of the milk jugs, and finished inside the phone book.









One can see paper from the phone book stuck inside the bullet, and inside the petals. The paper was removed.
















The bullet weighs 301.5g, so i guess there still is a little paper left stick in there behind the petals. A new 300g Deep Curl sitting here weighs a tad over 300g. The load pushing the bullet was 110g BH, fired by the X7, and the range was a tad over 300 yard.

Ron, I wouldn't chance shooting a deer with a bullet that can't hold its shape any better than that.

In my book, and for the money, the 300 DC is the best bullet out there.

What do you figure the velocity was on impact?

I missed when you posted that test. What was the drop at that distance?

I'm entertaining taking longer shots for 2013 in rifle season. So, I can use sabots.

That is amazing bullet performance. Definitely a game getter at those distances. Would have made a nasty hole in that deer.

The calculation shows the velocity at 300 yard to be 1157 fps. This is just a tad faster than the speed of sound. Any distance further and this bullet will slow through the sound barrier, and probably lose any accuracy it has. It seems the sound barrier would cause buffeting of the bullet. Thus it seems that this bullet won't be accurate beyond this range when shot from this rifle using this load.

Since last summer i have been sighting in all my rifles at 100 yard. The ballistic calculation chart shows this bullet with this muzzle velocity will need to be 14.25" high at 100 yard to be zeroed at 300 yard. What i did to accomplish this hit, was turn the elevation dial of the scope 14.25 minute of angle up. This is just 3 clicks less than a full revolution of the dial. This was a good thing for this particular dial, because it has ball stops on it, and cannot be turned more than one revolution.

The thread preceding this was:

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/blac...d-capture.html

I'll definitely need a BDC scope. Is there a 250gr DC? Have you tested it?

What does the 300yd distance have for FPE? I'm sure ok for deer, but not elk?

The bullet picture along with the velocity chart serve to prove my philosophy regarding the "need for speed" when your hunting situation is typically 150 yards or less.

The bullet expanded beautifully with an impact velocity around 1150 fps. With a "piddling" muzzle velocity of only 1350 fps (which I get with about 80 grains of GOEX FFFg from my X7) the 150 yard impact velocity would be in the 1150 fps range. It's all in knowing the trajectory.

Energy at all yards is on the chart.

Long range shooting with a muzzy definitely require some kinda help on/in the scope. Myself, i tried the fancy reticles, but have not found them to my liking. Nowaday i do all long range shooting with the help of a CDS dial. The system works better for me than a excess number of marks inside the view of my scope. The CDS dial worked for me last season on 2 deer and all year on all manner of paper, jugs, cheez-it, etc. All my rifle use the CDS dial. CDS dial were invented for centerfire rifle i believe. It turns out the cds dial is a way more helpful for a muzzy shooter, at least in my opinion.

The 250g Deep Curl i have tested. It is a great bullet to use in my iron sighted muzzies, but is not the best long range bullet.

All my iron sighted muzzy rifles are loaded with less powder than my scope sighted rifles. They still can shoot far further than i can without a scope. No matter the critter, hot loads are totally unnecessary when one cannot use a scope. In SD, during muzzy season, we cannot use glass.

Although I do not have real world (hunting) experience to verify this, I would not count on the DC 250gr to perform similarly to the DC 300gr. The 250’s design is markedly different from the 300 as it has a much deeper hollow point configuration. Perhaps because the 250 is designed for the .45 Colt where as the 300 is for the .454 Casull – different velocities?

A little while back WV Hunter did a test (rather his son did) on how well certain bullets perform in a wet sand media and the 250 was not impressive. Wet sand is not a deer or an elk, but nonetheless it sort of confirmed my concerns.

If you can go down to 240gr, the .44 240gr DCHP (for the .44 mag) seems to more mimic the 300 but at a smaller weight.

I wish you guys would quit posting pics of those Deep Curls, I've loaded up with the Hornady .429 XTPs in 240 and 300gr and have been very happy...