That 21" stainless barrel was originally what I was wanting when I first started looking a month or so ago. Problem is according to their website they don't have them anymore. I don't know if they'll start making them again? It would sure make for a nice woods gun.
How much would the 21" barrel affect accuracy at longer ranges? Most of my shots would be pretty close, but I do hav a couple places that I could hunt that I would be able to take shots up to about 200 yards? Is that something that would be possible about this type of gun or would that be a good day to take a different gun?

Kirby if your just looking to shoot conicals and it doesn't have to be a traditional rifle. the Knight wolverines are excellent conical shooters and you can pick up NIB blue/ blacks for $150.00 or buy one direct from knight camoed/blue for $289.00.

I guess it wouldn't have to be, but it just kind of seem like a traditional would be the right thing to do with conicals.

Actually the Knight wolverine is a plunger style like the White rifles, which are considered one of the best conical shooters ever made.Knight rifles can also shoot conicals almost as well as a White rifles.

Were it me I would go with the 50 first - I believe there are a lot more options in the projectile line with it than the 45.

Plus there are a lot of places that still require a 50 to hunt larger big game with.

I was tempted to tell that it is for sale, but I think I will hang on to it a bit longer...

what do you consider a heavy conical? I have a friend with a TC hawken .54 that shoots consistent 3 inch groups at 100 yards with a 430 maxi ball, I have a .54 TC greyhawk that shoots about the same size groups with the same maxiball, both with open sites and I'm sure they would do a little better with a scope. I also have a Cabelas hawken that will hold about a 4 inch group with the same bullet. All are 1-48 twist I believe.

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/blac...t-bighorn.html

1:24 twist hawken <-- click

For my45 cal. I shoot a 460 to 540 . I consider that a heavy conical.
for my 40 cal white I shoot a 410 gr conical.

SuperKirby

The beauty of the Bull Shop conicals or even the No Excuse - they are 'slip fit' - no short starter needed.

Dan at Bull Shope will size them to your bore for you so you can just push them in with your thumb and then home with the ram rod..

Here are some examples of Dan's offerings..