Accura Mountain Rifle!!
 

Just got the 2012 CVA catalog and the new Accura Mountain Rifle is in it! Accura now shares the looks of the Apex, has a new recoil pad as well. A bit over 6lbs, SS barrel as usual but they also added Weatherguard coating to the barrel/frame.

what makes it a mountain rifle? shorter barrel? I always liked the looks of the apex more than the accura anyway....

lighter weight, brownish tan finish over the SS for protection/ less reflective glare. Looks like the new ramrod is on it as well.

that actually sounds pretty sweet

I really do like the weatherguard coating. I love the fact that they didnt get cheap and use a carbon barrel and then coat it. Real SS with the coating on the outside.

My main concern right now is will it work with open sights? The Apex is strictly for scope but do-able with open sights but uncomfortable. I think this has the same Apex stock so i'd most likely have to buy longer screws and shim the sights to lift them up off the barrel to get them into alignment with my eye.

That's is sweet! I might have to convince the GF that I need another gun.... If we had mountains in Iowa I might be able to use that angle

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Is the Apex also in the catalog?

I really see no advantage to a lighter gun. More recoil. Harder to hold steady.

If a couple of lbs is too hard to carry. It's time to hit the gym.

Just saying.

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I get this a lot lately.

This old carpenter sees a definite advantage to a lighter rifle. The things i did with my body have resulted in permanent wear, and break down. Carrying a heavy rifle brings me all kinda suffering. This month i have been packing a light rifle without a scope. The pain i feel at the end of a hunt is much reduced. One thing i noticed is i don't feel the need to switch shoulders back and forth all day, to relieve pain.

Instead of hitting the gym, my suggestion is hit the range, and practice shooting them light rifle in similar conditions as would be hunting.

My suspicion about this CVA rifle, is it will be priced high end, thus i won't be interested. It is impossible for me to get past the silly belief, a foreign made rifle should be less expensive than one made in USA.

yes that certainly is silly. Quality is never cheap IMO.

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Actually if you think about it, $600 "CVA's price, not store price" isn't bad considering it actually has a real stainless barrel. All of the other companies that offer any type coating use a carbon barrel and just give it a silver paint job to mimick SS but charge up the butt like it were true SS.

I'd imagine the true price will be in the low $500 range at the stores.

When i get one you're more than welcome to give it a try after i molest it for a bit LOL.

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Looks nice, wonder what TC and Knight will have for 2012 or when all the new line ups of Muzzle loaders will be out for the rest of us to see.

Steve

I am wondering where they achieved the weight savings. What does 2" of Accura barrel weigh? That coupled with a partially hollowed out stock may be the answer. The original Accura was never as heavy as the weight indicated by CVA, I think they included the sling and everything else in the box in their weight figure.

I never saw anything to indicate caliber seclection so it will probably only be available in .50 - or did I miss something, FG? I was a little surprised to see the 2012 standard V2 Accuras still have the same old stock as always - only this particular one has the Apex-like stock.

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The buttstock is a little shorter than the previous models so that probably accounts for the additional weight savings.

Now, now Magic, Muley has been making more sense lately. I guess that medication to quiet the voices in his head is beginning to kick in. In fact I think I may be actually getting used to him being on here and reading his posts with interest.

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Chet i agree with you 100 % and what impresses me the most about the concept of a mountain M/L rifle is, CVA came up with the idea on there own :confused0024:.it also comes with a adjustable trigger.any company has to provide products that there potential customers want. light weight C/F rifles are in high demand in this country and IMHO that will cross over into the M/L world also.Knight made the inline famous and T/C followed with the pivot action and then the break action. both company's need to be constantly researching new ideas and be in tune with what the people want.unfortunately sticking to tradition can sometimes lead to failure..

Oh this is good! I was looking through the catalog again and its available with open sights as an option.

.50cal only

Just came back from the range. My 8 1/2 lb .270 is as steady as a rock. :)

Hey that's great, you can put that in this section here. http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/guns-10/

Maybe someday you'll learn to mind your own business. I wasn't talking to you. I was responding to Ron, not chaded.

Right or wrong, my opinion is the craftsman in the USA gets a bigger piece of the pie, than the craftsman in Spain. This is the reason i cannot with clear conscience, purchase a Rifle made in Spain for the same price or more, as a rifle made in USA. Of course my opinion is colored by the fact that i myself worked with tools manipulated by my hands, and this is how i fed my family, and my pension.

Hey that's great, i use my muzzle loader during our rifle season. In the timber i used the X7, and out on the prairie this year, i used the 45 disc elite.

The target was shot using the X7 which weighs 6#. Range was 271 yard. As i have mentioned before, i carrry a muzzle loader when hunting in our rifle season. My physical limitations make it far easier to pack a light rifle whilst hunting off my hind legs, than a heavy rifle.

Spending time and money at a gym would be bad for my joints, and my wallet. Spending time at the range, learning how to shoot my X7, pays off in meat. Packing the 'light' X7 allows me to enjoy all the aspects of hunting i.e. the being there, the smells, the sights, the sneak, the 'walk', the weather etc.

I understand Ron. We all have limitations when we get older. I have a real recoil problem, and a CF is easier to control for me. I don't have a problem carrying a heavier gun. As a still hunter I have to take a lot of fast shots offhand. The heavier gun helps that. Plus it helps recoil.

You know how much I enjoy the hunt if you've read any of my posts. The hunt is everything to me. The kill is just a bonus.

it all depends on the style of rifle. Some styles feel better in lighter or heavier weights. Like the cva mountain rifle and the lyman great plains. Those 2 are heavy but feel perfect when i shoulder them.

The lyman trade right is lighter in weight and balances perfect for me as well.

Just have to learn how to shoot them all i suppose.

Learning to shoot has nothing to do with it. A light gun will always be harder to hold steady than a heavier gun offhand, or from a rest.

Look at target and varmint guns.

I disagree.
Some varmint guns need a bipod to provide a steady rest for firing them. And true long range target muzzle loaders are often fired from a bench rest, cross sticks or prone during competition.
I think how well a person can fire any particular rifle depends on how well it fits them as well as the weight.
Some weaker folks may need a lighter rifle in order to hold and fire it better such as adults of smaller stature, ladies, teenagers, hunters who are exerting themselves at higher elevation in the mountains for long periods of time or where it's extremely hot and/or humid.
Let's not assume that heavier guns are the best weight for everyone since some guns are simply too heavy for smaller people to hold while a lighter gun is just right.
After all, it's named a mountain rifle for a reason.

I think muley hunter made a broad statement which I happen to believe is correct. Then articap disagrees because he says there are other considerations - which is also correct. I don't see a difference of opinion, just a consideration of additional parameters that might impact real world results.

:barmy:

Im sure all of the stuff in your house is Made in America Only...I for one find that Value and Price is first on my list. If I can buy something made outside the USA that gives me more money to spend locally to support our Economy here, I get to spread the cash around a little better.
Now I personally would rather spend my money and have it go to Spain then to China. I was looking over some of the products that I have that are from TC, you'd think that good ol American TC would have all there products made in the USA right, wrong. I wonder how many other parts in there MLers or anything else TC makes comes from China also. They might be assembled in the USA but are they all American Made, I doubt it.
Look at some of the clothes you wear, hunting and non hunting, are they all American Made, nope, are all the pieces that make up your car or truck all made in America, nope. I'll bet that the majority of all the stuff in all of our Homes is made outside the USA. yet you trash anyone who buys a MLer that is made in Spain.
Our Econmy is'nt just based on what's made in the USA, it's based on what's made all over the world, were all tied togeather and rely on each other to keep things moving.
Sure I wish everything was made in America but it's just never going to happen.

For one I love my (u-view powder measurer) it works great, but shoot it's made in China, how many of you buy only American guys out there use the TC u-view?
I buy what works, My CVA ACCURA from Spain is a well made sweet shooting MLer, if you have'nt tried one done mock it.
Also I know when I call CVA I get instant satisfaction, do you get that when you call TC, I bet they dont even answer there phone or when you send an e-mail it never gets answered. Just saying.................

You're kidding right? In front of me right now is keyboard, monitor, clock, telephone, scanner, printer, glasses, watch, camera, gps, battery, charger, CVA breech plug, desk chair, router..............non of which is made in USA. There is a Case knife, Williams peep sight, TC breech plug, antique table, antique tape holder, Knight breech plug, Benchmade knife, old stapler, all made in the USA.

There are 3 Accura here. This new CVA rifle will probably cost a lot more than i paid for any of these rifle here, the craftsman will probably not get more of that money, than he/she earned making these old CVA rifle. That is what i wrote, that was my point, and that is what i believe.

As you wrote, it is a world economy; we really have no choice, but to accept it.

Gotcha.....you cleared it up a little better in this post. I did'nt mean the comments above to go directly yo you, it was for the others who keep trashing CVA's and think they only buy all American Made stuff.
I know your a CVA shooter like me.
(BP)