on another site, a guy had an tc hawken and renegade factory second stocks for sell with some parts for $150. after looking at the pics. I have decided not to buy them. i have too many projects now that I am working on.

I gotta stay on this path on buying the cva accura 45cal i am wanting.
or
getting an cva apex and getting the 45cal barrel. i think an local gunshop has one for sell for $500 something with an 308 barrel

It's funny once you get a little spending cash how many good deals suddenly start popping up when you really want something else.
You know, if it were me (and it's not) it might be worth holding out for the Apex. I have no experience with either of your considerations, but from all I hear the Apex is a great gun. But then again, so is the Accura. Hmmm. Good luck.

I am going to have to stay out of gun shops for a while. one as another nagant, planning on getting another one and doing an hunting rifle mod on it. as well as another 22. either an 10/22 or some other semiauto 22.