Mythbusted or not?? your call
 

Before I left on my much needed vacation and hunting. Alot of the Knight guys had been talking about how much more accurate a Knight with a bolt and a 1 piece stock is versus a break actio gun.

So, I bought a Knight Mountaineer and even though I rarely shoot at these ranges, decided to give 200yds. a go. Not saying that someone else couldn't do better but, here are my results. The day was cold 20 degrees and sunny, with a 5mph breeze from left to right. No cool down between shots, figured it was cold enough.

First the Knight Mountaineer
Scope Leupold UltimateSlam
Range 200yds. per leupold rangefinder
Powder 110gr. BH209
Bullet 260gr. PT Golds
Sabot Crush rib harvester
Primer FED209A
Group 3.75"



Next up is the trusted TC Endeavor with it's two piece stock, sloppy hinge pin, and heavy trigger.

Thompson Center Encore/Endeavor
Scope Burris FF II
Range 200yds. per leupold rangefinder
Powder 110gr. BH209
Bullet 260gr. PT Golds
Short Black harvester
Primer FED209A
Group 4.25"




Conclusion: There is not a deer alive that is going to notice the 1/2" difference between the two. I also belive the hype about a one pice stock and bolt action is still prefference and has nothing to do with the accuracy of a gun (maybe the shooter) not the gun.

Pros: I love the grey laminate stock and the trigger is a dream to shoot. really didn't realize how stiff the trigger was on my Encore.

Cons: The FED209A is unbelievably tight in the breachplug of the Mountaineer. Only other thing I can come up with is cleaning with the breach threads being so far in the action.

EndeavorShooter

If you are interested you can send that plug to Lehigh and get a modfication of the primer pocket completed or you can send it here and I can do it. And just a FYI all newer Lehigh/Knight breechplug primer pockets have been programmed to be opened to allow use of a wider range of primers.

+ they have added another hardening process to the surface of the plug for the 2012 offering.

I think where you will see a difference in the to style of guns is over time.
If you use them both pretty regular (several good years of shooting ), I beieve the advantage would go to the bolt style of gun just for moving parts getting wear. But if a person was to shoot moderately I dont see much differents

I would think the same but, I have had mine for 4-5yrs and shoot reguarly. Probably 60 shots a month and more during season. there is no movement in my hingepin and it is all factory, still.

So, do you buy a bolt gun because it may happen? Doesn't make sense to me.

Either way, they are both keepers!!!

I have to agree with Boone on the accuracy difference between a bolt and break action.when i see people like LEE and MD who shoot constantly with there break actions and continue to have tack driving accuracy,it can lead to only one conclusion that it's a myth.IMHO, the only thing keeping company's from making CF break actions, is the fact that you only get one shot and with a bolt 4 or more.(people want the luxury of multiple shots)Knight makes a nice rifle. i am anxious to see the 2012 line up.

Nice report no problems with a dead animal there

Boone? This is endevor shooter

Oh well , i thought i read Boone lol..you all know who i was addressing the thread to.

Im impressed with both groups. Thats some mighty fine shooting.

EndeavorShooter
A couple of things, I took my Endeavor apart and honed the mating surfaces and put a Bellm spring in it { of course I used to have a muzzle loading and archery shop and I tear into every gun I buy just because I want to} my trigger is just what I want I don't like them much under 3#for a hunting gun.
The story of a single piece stock etc is more or less true or at least it was up to the point where moder engineering change things now they have auto sniper rifle.
The truth of the matter is the bolt action is very strong and with 60,000 PSI in a modern cartridge rifle it is the most reasonable way to combine strength and accuracy.
Trouble is in a muzzle loader you don't have lugs locking into the barrel so the length the bolt takes up adds nothing but length and weight and no strength.
As for the one piece stock adding accuracy if that's true then how come my Triumph and my Endeavor will both out shoot my Omega which has the same advantages they are talking about. Now as far as the time frame is concerned I burn over a case of Blackhorn and a half case of Pyrodex a year and have been shooting the Triumph for a number of years ever since they came out and I could get one and the Endeavor for a couple of years and the will still shoot as good as they did new.
One other thing I will mention i always put thin steel washers between the forearm and the barrel studs to float the forearm so I do not have to worry about just how it sits on the bench every time I shoot it.
i don't doubt some people believe these things but I do not think they look at reality with open eyes.