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ADVWannabee 11-15-2011 03:04 PM

I just passed on the best buck of my life
 
Ok, I posted my 4 ptr that I got Saturday evening. I was happy to get him. I am a meat hunter and I am happy to get any deer. I average about 1 per year but have done better and have gone dry.

Today was my first day back in the field since Saturday evening. I waited until almost too dark to see and I heard deer coming through the woods. I was hunting the blind in the field today, I got the buck on Saturday from my treestand in the woods.

Sure enough a couple young does pop out. Then I see him. A mature 8 ptr. He was coming almost straight at me at 40 yards. Then he turned to my left with his nose to ground trailing a doe that must be coming into heat. He passed to my left at 30 yards. He filled my scope and I could have pulled the trigger at any time. I wanted to pull the trigger too. So what was stopping me? EAB. That is, the Earn A Buck program. :rant: In my county you have to shoot a doe before you could shoot a second buck. I know the program is probably a good one, but why me???:confused:

For some reason I thought I might regret shooting that 4 ptr even though I didn't regret it at the time. If I am not mistaken, this is my 20th year deer hunting and this was only the 2nd large buck I have ever had in my scope. The first was last year and he was on the neighbors land so I couldn't take the shot. These kind of deer don't come by me often.

I told my wife that I was going to shoot the first little, tiny doe I see. She didn't think that was funny. Problem is, I just might. :biggrin:

2LungKing 11-15-2011 03:13 PM

kill the first baldy you see I have earn a buck in my state its very frustrating

gregrn43 11-15-2011 03:14 PM

Sounds like your luck is about like mine lately. I must commend you for your restraint, its tough to pass on a buck like that.

mountaineer magic 11-15-2011 03:28 PM

shoot a doe first thing in the morning then start looking for him in the afternoon. Hope you get him.

bronko22000 11-15-2011 04:17 PM

You might be a bit depressed that you didn't shoot. But ethically you did the right thing and obeyed the law. Regardless of how illogical it seems. I guess though it does keep hunters from shooting their 2 buck and hanging it up for the season with a full freezer as the doe numbers climb.
It its fate, then you will get another crack at him. God willing - good luck

Semisane 11-15-2011 04:31 PM

Don't you just hate those smart azz ones ADV?


VAhuntr 11-15-2011 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by ADVWannabee (Post 3876669)
Ok, I posted my 4 ptr that I got Saturday evening. I was happy to get him. I am a meat hunter and I am happy to get any deer. I average about 1 per year but have done better and have gone dry.

Today was my first day back in the field since Saturday evening. I waited until almost too dark to see and I heard deer coming through the woods. I was hunting the blind in the field today, I got the buck on Saturday from my treestand in the woods.

Sure enough a couple young does pop out. Then I see him. A mature 8 ptr. He was coming almost straight at me at 40 yards. Then he turned to my left with his nose to ground trailing a doe that must be coming into heat. He passed to my left at 30 yards. He filled my scope and I could have pulled the trigger at any time. I wanted to pull the trigger too. So what was stopping me? EAB. That is, the Earn A Buck program. :rant: In my county you have to shoot a doe before you could shoot a second buck. I know the program is probably a good one, but why me???:confused:

For some reason I thought I might regret shooting that 4 ptr even though I didn't regret it at the time. If I am not mistaken, this is my 20th year deer hunting and this was only the 2nd large buck I have ever had in my scope. The first was last year and he was on the neighbors land so I couldn't take the shot. These kind of deer don't come by me often.

I told my wife that I was going to shoot the first little, tiny doe I see. She didn't think that was funny. Problem is, I just might. :biggrin:


I feel your pain as I have been in a similar situation. Several years ago I was bowhunting during the Urban Archery "doe only" season. It was the evening before bow season opened up state wide and bucks would have been legal then. I had a very good 8 pointer come in and start feeding around my stand. I thought about putting an arrow through him and coming back the next morning and picking him up. However, my wife and I had just disciplined our son for lying about getting in trouble at school the day before. After thinking about this I had to let him walk...needless to say I never saw him again.

cayugad 11-15-2011 05:22 PM

You did the right thing and you don't have to feel bad about it. Following the law is not anything to feel bad about. It just was not in the cards.

Many years back because of the doe population out of control we had to shoot does. And the first late afternoon while hunting from my blind, I had three nice bucks come through and stand there. I enjoyed seeing them. But always wished I could have shot the second one that came through. But I did get lots of does that year.

7.62NATO 11-15-2011 05:23 PM

ADV - You showed major restraint there, and you'll get it back in dividends. You'll see. Good luck.

MMagic - You talk like you can just pop out in your PJs and kill a doe. I have never had the experience of being able to count on seeing does in any one place during a particular window of time. That must be nice...I'm jealous!

mountaineer magic 11-15-2011 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by 7.62NATO (Post 3876765)
ADV - You showed major restraint there, and you'll get it back in dividends. You'll see. Good luck.

MMagic - You talk like you can just pop out in your PJs and kill a doe. I have never had the experience of being able to count on seeing does in any one place during a particular window of time. That must be nice...I'm jealous!

Around here you can go out and get a doe anytime and I don't have to go more than a mile or so to do it. Sometimes just in the pasture near the house

Breechplug 11-15-2011 05:42 PM

You did the right thing.......When I was younger I'd shoot the first Buck I saw, then as the years went by I would'nt settle for nothing better than a 8 Point, then I went to only Mature Dominant Bucks, this was with MY Bow. Then if I did'nt see a Buck at least 130 Class with My Bow during Bow Season I'd SAVE that Tag for Late ML Season (We get 2 Tags for Archery and Late ML Season, a Antlerless Tag and a Either Sex Tag) you can use either during Early Archery Season or in Late ML Season.
So as I grew Older I Passed on Many Bucks that by the time I could use them Tags in Late ML Season I WISHED I'd see the Bucks I Passed on, sometime's I'd get Lucky and Score on a Nice Buck but most times I'd go Hime with Unfilled Buck Tags by the end of the Season.
Now I LOVE Deer Meat but My Wife also Hunts, so if She puts a Small Buck and a Nice Doe in the Freezer were doing Good and I can just Hunt for the Buck Im after, If I dont get Him I still usually have 2-3 Doe Tags and if I fill one of them then we have 3 Deer and that's all we need for the Year.
What Im getting at is it all comes down to what YOU as a Hunter feel Comfortable Taking during the Season, you know what Tags you have and how they have to be filled. In the back of My Mind I know that someday, somewhere that Big Buck will show and if I shoot a lesser Buck just to say I Got One then when that Big Boy Shows Im Crap Out Of Luck! If My Tag goes Unfilled It's NOT because I could'nt have filled it, it's because I Chose Not to Shoot a Deer that I was'nt going to be 100% Happy with after I had My Tag on Him.
I Learned My Lesson well 13 Seasons ago when I filled My Archery Buck Tag with a Decent 8 Point, then during our Gun Season I shot another decent 8 Point on Thanksgiving Day ( My Buck Tags were filled for the Season) Then for the rest of Gun Season I was HAUNTED By seeing nothing but BIG BUCKS and I could'nt shoot them as all I had left were Doe Tags, then during that Late ML Season when I was trying to fill a Doe Tag Mr. BIG came out into the Cut Corn Field, a 160-170 Class 10 Pointer, all I could do was watch Him. From that day on I Vowed to NEVER shoot a Buck that was'nt up to My Standards, no matter if I went Years without Filling Buck Tag or at least had another Buck Tag left.
Today I Dont feel bad going through Archery Season without a Unfilled Buck Tag, I know I could have taken a Buck, but it was'nt the One I Wanted, and if others picked on Me for Not getting a Buck with My Bow I Dont Care, and if that Tag went Unfilled during our Late ML Season I was still Satisfied in the end knowing that I COULD have but let them walk and Grow to be the one that I might get a carck at next year.
You'll Never get the Big One if you take a smaller one, My Freezer Always get's Full, and I Always have at least 1 Buck Tag to fill by the end of the Season for the One that Could Have Been, if that Tag get's filled it's because I saved it and was LUCKY to fill it, if it goes unfilled Im still a Happy Hunter and have No Regrets for Not filling it and Saving it for the one I Should have Saved it for.

ModernPrimitive 11-15-2011 05:42 PM

ADV-don't feel bad, at least you had the opportunity!
I've taken a pass on nice deer before w/out the legal requirements: One opening morning a nice buck stood up from his bed & shook the dew off while looking sleepily around;it just didn't feel right to end his day then & there w/ a chunk of lead.
Go get a doe!

ADVWannabee 11-16-2011 03:13 AM

Thanks for all the encouragement everyone. I am mostly recovered from the shock of last night. My wife's uncle told me the same thing that Breechplug said, you can't shoot the big ones if you don't pass the little ones. Problem is, I never see big ones. This is only the 2nd time I have had a big one in my scope. It was awesome to have him so close watching him trail the doe. At one point he grunted which is the first time I have ever heard a deer grunt.

I believe he will be around a while longer as he is in rut and we have a lot of does hanging around. I saw 4 this morning in the same field where I passed up the buck last night. Now I just have to get a doe very soon before the big guy moves on.

hubby11 11-16-2011 04:59 AM

Great. Just great. I'm in VA too and just got a smallish 6 pointer last Friday and am going out again this Saturday. Just started thinking that I might regret taking that buck for the exact situation of this thread. Boy am I knocking on wood now.

Seriously, you showed some good restraint.

pluckit 11-16-2011 12:32 PM

In my county in Maryland you have to shoot 2 does before you can take another buck.

chas0218 11-17-2011 10:11 AM

Wow I never heard of these Earn a Buck program. Are these rules in place because of over population or to prevent people from taking only bucks?

ADVWannabee 11-17-2011 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by chas0218 (Post 3877593)
Wow I never heard of these Earn a Buck program. Are these rules in place because of over population or to prevent people from taking only bucks?

I am assuming they are in place to encourage people to not just take bucks. But if you look at the game harvest for VA, Franklin county is in the top 5 every year so it might be for population control too. Either way, it has cost me a buck twice now. This time it cost me the best buck of my hunting career.

pluckit 11-17-2011 02:42 PM

The "Earn A Buck" rules are in place for population control. I can harvest 10 does during muzzle loader season alone in my county. There is "NO LIMIT" on the number of does that can be taken with a bow in my county.

Breechplug 11-17-2011 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by pluckit (Post 3877704)
The "Earn A Buck" rules are in place for population control. I can harvest 10 does during muzzle loader season alone in my county. There is "NO LIMIT" on the number of does that can be taken with a bow in my county.

If I lived there I'd be Exhausted by the end of the Season from dragging all them Does out and My Food Saver would really get a work out too.
In all Seriousness are there that many Does there?

hubby11 11-17-2011 06:30 PM

Three counties in Northern VA have a crazy amount of deer. One of them (Fairfax) is just outside of DC. Despite a fair amount of woodlands, it is pretty much illegal to use guns leaving the bow crowd for population control. Not cutting it. Driving is pretty hazardous this time of year.

The other two counties with EAB have a lot farm land in between heavy woods. And lots of acorns.

pluckit 11-18-2011 03:05 AM

[QUOTE=Breechplug;3877719]
In all Seriousness are there that many Does there?
REPLY-I don't think it has to do with the number of does as much as the overall number of deer in a highly populated area such as the county I live in. I believe a doe can have anywhere from 1 to 3 fawns a year. If everyone were to only trophy hunt for big racks, could you imagine how the deer population would explode in just a few years? I can tell you that the person that farms the land I hunt on says that the deer cost him a whole lot of money from crop damage every year.


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