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ADVWannabee 11-14-2011 08:59 AM

Anybody using Winchester 777 primers?
 
I had read that some people felt that traditional shotgun primers may be too powerful and actually get the bullet moving before the powder fully ignites so I switched to the 777 primers. I don't see too many people here talking about primers, maybe that is because they don't really matter? So I thought I would ask, for Pyrodex pellets, does it matter what primer I use? Has anyone noticed a difference in accuracy between types of primers?

Muley Hunter 11-14-2011 09:02 AM

The T7 primers should work fine for everything but BH 209.

Breechplug 11-14-2011 09:24 AM

I sometimes use the T7 Primers with Pyro Pellets and they work fine. Now I cant find the chart that Sabotloader sent Me but there is a big difference in Primers as to there Length and Velocity, mabey He'll see this and Post it.

corey012778 11-14-2011 09:49 AM

I am using using t7 primers this year. namely because I found with the sit up I am using, the primer allowed better groups. but I only test 4 out of what 7 primers out there

MountainDevil54 11-14-2011 10:11 AM

Yes primers make a huge difference in accuracy. Some powders simply want a certain primer for best accuracy.

pluckit 11-14-2011 11:56 AM

I use T7 primers and Pyrodex Pellets in my Pursuit with a 240 grain .45 cal XTP and they work very well.

7.62NATO 11-14-2011 12:24 PM

I remember reading a post by Sabotloader where he showed different group sizes with the same load and varying primers, and the differences were negligible. I don't remember if he chronographed them or not, but the groups were very similar and POI did not shift all that much.

sabotloader 11-14-2011 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by ADVWannabee (Post 3875837)
I had read that some people felt that traditional shotgun primers may be too powerful and actually get the bullet moving before the powder fully ignites so I switched to the 777 primers.

Cecil @ PR bullets has professed this stance and I would have to agree that in some cases it could actually happen, especially if the powder load has degraded, but in normal circumstances probably not a factor. As many people that are now using 209 primers I am sure we would have heard more about this by now. Especially by the folks shooting the magnum primers.


I don't see too many people here talking about primers, maybe that is because they don't really matter? So I thought I would ask, for Pyrodex pellets, does it matter what primer I use? Has anyone noticed a difference in accuracy between types of primers?
You know shooting pellets it might matter - but I am not really thinking it might...

Different POI when switching primers... I would say anytime you switch any component it might switch POI, but I my case I have not found changing primers with a proven accurate load has made a BIG difference...

Here is a target that I was testing primarily to see if the amount of velocity would change if I used different primers. It was not really shot for accuracy but you can see the differences...


ADVWannabee 11-14-2011 01:47 PM

Thanks for the info everyone. I will stick with the T7 primers since they are working for me.

Muley Hunter 11-14-2011 01:50 PM

You would think there's some difference. Why would they bother to develop ML primers if there was no need? All the companies already had primers on the shelves.


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