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zakjak711 11-13-2011 10:07 AM

The 250 XTP in my son's TC Encore has taken 6 for 6 with ALL DRT's.
Shots are 110gr's 777 loose and 110 gr's BH 209 with distance of 60-120 yds.
Not that we needed it, but all were pass thru's.
Terminal velocity plus with this bullet.
Prior to this we used the TC Shockwave/SST,but couldn't get pass thru's!
As a result, had to trail deer with little to no blood--Ended up with deer not recovered.

Mark

Breechplug 11-13-2011 04:41 PM

I use nothing but the 240gr XTP, I have never lost a Deer that has been shot with one, but I also like the groups that they shoot out of My ACCURA V1, on a good day I'll put a 1 1/2" 5 shot group at 150 yds with them and even better at 100.
Now My Buddy shoots the SST's out of His TC Triumph, I have no clue why he has'nt killed a Deer yet with them, we get a few drops of Blood and No Deer, at the range He shoots great groups with them but in the Moment He can put it togeather.
Again, shoot what puts the Best Groups out of Your ML, and a well placed Bullet no matter what it is will get the job done. Sure there's some that do a Faster Better Job and that's what we want but if you hit em where your suppos-to then most should do the Job.

Krypt Keeper 11-13-2011 06:32 PM

250gr shockwaves in my 3 .50 cals plus 90 grain of loose powder = dead deer200gr shockwave in my .45 cal plus 90grain loose powder = dead deerI am shooting the bonded ones and don't like them as much as the other, but couldn't find any of the non bonded ones ones last yr, and then got more of the bonded in my stocking. The bonded will drop the deer no issue, but the bonded seem to zip through deer and leave a small exit hole.

Breechplug 11-13-2011 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by Krypt Keeper (Post 3875533)
250gr shockwaves in my 3 .50 cals plus 90 grain of loose powder = dead deer200gr shockwave in my .45 cal plus 90grain loose powder = dead deerI am shooting the bonded ones and don't like them as much as the other, but couldn't find any of the non bonded ones ones last yr, and then got more of the bonded in my stocking. The bonded will drop the deer no issue, but the bonded seem to zip through deer and leave a small exit hole.

That's what Im thinking about My Buddy and His Shots on Deer with them. He's a Good Shot but the SST's He's using dont do much Damage and seem to Pass right through. We Hunt in Thick Hilly ravine area and if you dont find your Deer with in a 100yds or so your in Trouble as they can go into the Thckest stuff Imagineable or go down one Ravine and over another in a matter of seconds. Im gonna try My Best to get Him to try a different Bullett. Were good Trackers but when we have to Track a Deer into stuff that will hold you up if you Die in there then I hope you guy's know what were up against. Most times we have to leave our Guns and Crawl into this stuff with Pruning Shears just to get through it, all we also make sure we have Walkie Talkies so we dint get lost in there or have to Yell to another Friend just so they can tell us where we are.

oldsmellhound 11-14-2011 08:12 AM

Either are good bullets. Keep in mind there are several different types of Shockwaves and XTP's as several have noticed. I only have personal experience with the following:

1. .430 240 grain XTP- my hunting buddy has used these for years, and they are
deadly on deer. Some have been pass-thrus, some have stayed in the deer, but in
general I have always been impressed with them. He uses 80 - 90 grains T7.

2. .452 250 grain XTP- another hunting buddy uses these. Similar performance to
#1, the only difference is maybe less pass-thrus with this bullet, though it's hard
to say for sure.

3. 200 grain Shockwave- I've taken 3 deer with these. They penetrate very well and shoot flat. All were pass-thrus. Expansion has been good, though not
spectacular. I used 80 grains T7 on 2 deer, and 100 grains T7 on 1. I like these bullets for long range shooting in more open territory. If I was hunting in a
swamp or very brushy area, I would use a different bullet.

I have no personal experience with the 250 or 300 grain Shockwaves. There is also a 300 grain XTP and a .40 cal 200 grain XTP which I used to use and did a good job.


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