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Breech plug?
First off I'd appreciate it if EndeavorShooter didn't reply, to this thread or any of mine for that matter. But my question is how tight do you tighten your breech plug. I use Anti-seize not Teflon tape if it matters.
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I always just snug them good.
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Originally Posted by dirt1008
(Post 3873193)
First off I'd appreciate it if EndeavorShooter didn't reply, to this thread or any of mine for that matter. But my question is how tight do you tighten your breech plug. I use Anti-seize not Teflon tape if it matters.
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Originally Posted by Gimpy
(Post 3873199)
I always just snug them good.
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I use a nut driver for my TC X7 and just snug it. I leave a drop or two of oil on the threads if I don't use teflon tape.Helps to take it out if using powders like t7.
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Doesn't have to be real tight. Just snug.
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I have a CVA. I tighten it as hard as I can with the end of two fingers.
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Originally Posted by dirt1008
(Post 3873193)
First off I'd appreciate it if EndeavorShooter didn't reply, to this thread or any of mine for that matter. But my question is how tight do you tighten your breech plug. I use Anti-seize not Teflon tape if it matters.
Another thing I might suggest since you are using grease is to make sure that you, and you probably do, clean the threads in the rifle very each cleaning as the grease can harden and give you a false feeling of being snug. If any of that makes any sense... |
Originally Posted by dirt1008
(Post 3873193)
First off I'd appreciate it if EndeavorShooter didn't reply, to this thread or any of mine for that matter. But my question is how tight do you tighten your breech plug. I use Anti-seize not Teflon tape if it matters.
dirt1008, I think the safest way to tighten your plug is until it reaches the shelf. In simpler terms, just tighten the plug the whole way. This will keep any gases or fouling from coming around your threads. Anti-Seize is a great product and it works perfectly. I quit using it because it was messy. All the different greases are messy, thats why i use the tape now. Either way, tighten the plug the whole way down to seal the breech plug threads. I will also note, when using BH209 i dont use either most of the time. After claning the plug i wipe down with oil and put back in the gun. No tape or grease. |
Never thought about this being that important as I screw it in until it quits. Both my guns come with a cheap breachplug wrench and I just tighten as much as I can by hand which isn't much because when they bottom out they stop. I hope I am not doing it wrong.
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I really appreciate all of the replies. I thought about using the tape but being a plumber I remember an old timer telling me that with the added thickness of the tape he stretched the threads on a valve one time. Now I know it was a brass valve and this is stainless but I just tend to stay away from it. I will say sabotloader you're definately correct on the grease hardening. I clean my threads regularly an have been using the copper based never seize rather than the silver. I believe it's rated for a higher temperature not that it matters but it seems not to harden as much.
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I use TC Super Lube Anti-seize with PTFE. It's clear and not messy at all. I hardly know it's there. It rubs me wrong to not have something on the threads, and tape is not an option for me. I like the BP to screw in and out easily.
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Finger tight
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Originally Posted by dirt1008
(Post 3873193)
First off I'd appreciate it if EndeavorShooter didn't reply, to this thread or any of mine for that matter. But my question is how tight do you tighten your breech plug. I use Anti-seize not Teflon tape if it matters.
Your right because i couldn'y help a guy like you. if you cant figure out how tight to tighten your BP, i mean there is a shelf in there for a reason, it is to make it dummy proof. or for some anyway.:confused0024: If you do not want someone to post in your thread, start your own board and then deny membership. |
The breech plugs that I have that need a wrench have a bar that you use with the wrench. I don't use the bar. I hand tighten the plug using the wrench without the bar. It doesn't have to be any tighter then you would tighten a Quick Release Breech Plug, the one that doesn't need a wrench.
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Originally Posted by pluckit
(Post 3873420)
The breech plugs that I have that need a wrench have a bar that you use with the wrench. I don't use the bar. I hand tighten the plug using the wrench without the bar. It doesn't have to be any tighter then you would tighten a Quick Release Breech Plug, the one that doesn't need a wrench.
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I tighten mine just until the action locks with a primer installed. This is usually a quarter turn prior to being completely seated. Why? If I seat it all the way in, i get so much blowback. The other way, I get none! I do use the pink tape stuff.
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Originally Posted by EndeavorShooter
(Post 3873374)
Your right because i couldn'y help a guy like you. if you cant figure out how tight to tighten your BP, i mean there is a shelf in there for a reason, it is to make it dummy proof. or for some anyway.:confused0024: |
Personally I think having it all the way in keeps both the breech plug and the "shelf" (new term to me) from erroding. I have always used the grease but one of these days I am going to use the tape, not because the mess bothers me so much, but because I feel it creates a better seal between the barrel and the plug.
I have never heard the statistic that 75 percent of the shooters loosen the plug a bit after tightening it, (nor do I know how one would get that number), but I don't think it is the right thing to do. For me triple 7 seems to make the plugs come out the hardest. |
Originally Posted by flounder33
(Post 3873606)
Personally I think having it all the way in keeps both the breech plug and the "shelf" (new term to me) from erroding. I have always used the grease but one of these days I am going to use the tape, not because the mess bothers me so much, but because I feel it creates a better seal between the barrel and the plug.
I have never heard the statistic that 75 percent of the shooters loosen the plug a bit after tightening it, (nor do I know how one would get that number), but I don't think it is the right thing to do. For me triple 7 seems to make the plugs come out the hardest. |
Originally Posted by flounder33
(Post 3873606)
Personally I think having it all the way in keeps both the breech plug and the "shelf" (new term to me) from erroding. I have always used the grease but one of these days I am going to use the tape, not because the mess bothers me so much, but because I feel it creates a better seal between the barrel and the plug.
I have never heard the statistic that 75 percent of the shooters loosen the plug a bit after tightening it, (nor do I know how one would get that number), but I don't think it is the right thing to do. For me triple 7 seems to make the plugs come out the hardest. |
What's the point of doing it?. Do they think it will stick if they leave it tight?
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
(Post 3873660)
What's the point of doing it?. Do they think it will stick if they leave it tight?
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Originally Posted by Grouse45
(Post 3873652)
You are good at finding old stuff so I'm sure you can do the math if you choose. BTW- mostly all the DWB''S did that in the past, I would bet most of them still do.
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Originally Posted by flounder33
(Post 3873677)
You talk about Endeavor treating people disrespectfully, I think it takes one to know one.
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You know Grouse, here is something for you to think about. During the time you were banned we didn't have any of this crap on here and the day you came back it starts again.
Coincidence? I don't think so. |
Originally Posted by flounder33
(Post 3873692)
You know Grouse, here is something for you to think about. During the time you were banned we didn't have any of this crap on here and the day you came back it starts again.
Coincidence? I don't think so. |
Originally Posted by flounder33
(Post 3873692)
You know Grouse, here is something for you to think about. During the time you were banned we didn't have any of this crap on here and the day you came back it starts again.
Coincidence? I don't think so. BTW- Builder, i don't see Muley down grading anyone like you. |
That's why I have him on ignore. Is he reading my posts?
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
(Post 3873225)
I have a CVA. I tighten it as hard as I can with the end of two fingers.
I do mine exactly the same way. Two finger tight with the tool that came with the rifle. Only thing I can add is that the threads and shelf need to be completely clean. SabotLoader taught me that one. I also only use anti-seize. I don't like the extra tightness the tape seems to add to the plug. Tom. |
Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
(Post 3873715)
That's why I have him on ignore. Is he reading my posts?
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What gun is that Head?
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Originally Posted by Grouse45
(Post 3873717)
Of course he is, he cant resist.
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
(Post 3873715)
That's why I have him on ignore. Is he reading my posts?
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
(Post 3873718)
What gun is that Head?
I meant it in reference to my Knight LRH. But actually I only go two finger tight on all my MZ breech plugs, and all my flash liners in my FL's, and nipples on my percussion rifles. Along with using anti-seize on all the above. Tom. |
Never tried it on nipples. I usually use a wrench on them.
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
(Post 3873719)
I didn't think he had enough character to keep me on ignore. Oh well. At least I can't see his dribble anymore.
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Originally Posted by Grouse45
(Post 3873717)
Of course he is, he cant resist.
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LOL..I can see Builder making post after post, but I don't see what he says.
Hopefully he's annoyed at being ignored. |
Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
(Post 3873738)
LOL..I can see Builder making post after post, but I don't see what he says.
Hopefully he's annoyed at being ignored. |
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