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chaded 11-05-2011 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 3871419)
Pyro is friendly. I loaded 25 shots one day with no swabbing. T7 was a nightmare for me in the gun I was using at the time. I took one shot in the field, and couldn't get the 2nd shot all the way down. I went home and threw away the T7 I had. I'll never buy it again.

If BH 209 went off the market. I'd use Pyro. If that went off the market.

I'd shoot a 30-06. :biggrin:

Thats pretty bad then with t7. That's all my uncle and father in law shoot out of their omegas now. My brother in law still uses pyro though. I'm thinking about going smokeless and forgetting about all of it lol.

Muley Hunter 11-05-2011 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by chaded (Post 3871422)
Thats pretty bad then with t7. That's all my uncle and father in law shoot out of their omegas now. My brother in law still uses pyro though. I'm thinking about going smokeless and forgetting about all of it lol.


You are if you're using BH 209. :biggrin:

chaded 11-05-2011 02:01 PM

Not quite the same thing. Maybe close though..

Muley Hunter 11-05-2011 02:57 PM

I've thought about going back to CF about a thousand times. Especially, when i'm shooting a ML during the regular rifle seasons.

Probably won't though. I like blowing clouds of smoke.

cayugad 11-05-2011 04:03 PM

Muley Hunter, I know what you mean about smoke. When I was shooting the flintlock today, because of the cold weather and humidity in the air, when the rifle would go off and release the black powder charge.. it was incredible to watch the smoke cloud in front of the shooting bench. Why I enjoy that I do not know.

donjose 11-05-2011 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by cayugad (Post 3871456)
Why I enjoy that I do not know.

I think its a peacefull thing Dave

Muley Hunter 11-05-2011 04:12 PM

You'll like this if you like smoke. When I used to shoot in CAS. I considered myself as one of the Warthogs. The goal of a Warthog is to use max loads, and make as much smoke as possible.

This isn't me, but my load and smoke looked the same.

Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq42c...eature=related

gregrn43 11-05-2011 04:14 PM

I have never used any BH before. I hear that BH is not compatable with some muzzleloaders. My question is this I have 4 inlines, rem m700, optima elite, optima, and a White rifle, will any of these rifles shoot Bh well? The rem and white are #11 caps.

Muley Hunter 11-05-2011 04:18 PM

I can only comment on the Optimas. They will shoot BH fine if you have a nice tight fit on the primer. You can also buy a BH 209 Breech Plug from CVA.

Primer choice is important with the stock BP. Not so important with the BH BP plug. Any normal 209 primer will work with it.

Josmund 11-05-2011 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by gregrn43 (Post 3871469)
The rem and white are #11 caps.


Those would be a no go for BH209.


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