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HEAD0001 10-29-2011 09:28 AM

Shot Some More BH
 
A friend stopped over yesterday and we went out on the porch and did a bunch of shooting. Including my Knight LRH. I started out wih a 120 grain load of BH-209, a crushed rib sabot, and a 300 grain Deep Curl Bullet. I studied alot and this seemed to be a very credible load. So I started with it.

I shot the rifle at 100 yards and shot three groups of three shots. On separate targets.

The bullet hit exactly where I thought it would hit. Almost all shots were in the center ring at 100 yards. And the rifle shot MOA groups at 100 yards(plus maybe 1/4" additional). I was very happy with that.

I know alot of you guys say to try different components. But I know this load is going to perform perfectly to 200+ yards just by how it shot at 50 and 100 yards.

These groups are about as good as the rifle(or any other MZ I have had) has ever shot.

I know you guys like to experiment alot with different loads. but I prefer to practice in the woods, and stay off the bench.

The question is simple. What am I really going to gain by spending alot more time and money at the bench experimenting with other different loads and bullets??

The 300 grain Deep Curl will kill anything I want. The Leupold CDS worked perfect from 50 to 100 yarsds. And I am sure it is going to work to 200+. And the BH is so simple to clean and shoot. So why should I try anything else?? What am I really going to gain?? Nothing I can think of.

I am keeping track of how many shots my breech plug will last. Tom.

mountaineer magic 10-29-2011 11:57 AM

What am i going to gain you ask? Why that should be obvious. The fun and expense of shooting up hundreds of dollars in powder and bullets. Los and lots of fun. That's what you gain.

HEAD0001 10-29-2011 12:02 PM

I understand that. I will shoot it a good bit. Just not off the bench. Once I decide on a load and sight my rifle in I don't shoot anymore from the bench. I take my rifles out in the woods and do alot of stump shooting. And any other target of opportunity, Kind of like my own little woods walk(ride in my circumstance). Shooting at targets of opportunities. Like stumps, mushrooms, rocks, and occasional live targets of opportunity. Tom.

MountainDevil54 10-29-2011 12:17 PM

Head you know you can get her off Carlos here for $27 shipped right?
http://frontiermuzzleloadin.powergui...khorn209-store

HEAD0001 10-29-2011 12:22 PM

I bought two cannisters from him from your post awhile back. One cannister is about gone already. I think I will ask him about a 5#'er next time. I wonder if he can get those also?? I can get a 5#'er locally. But I need to give 3 to 4 weeks advance notice. I haven't priced it yet.

I just picked up two 5#'ers of Trail boss a couple of weeks ago. Thanks, Tom.

pluckit 10-29-2011 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by HEAD0001 (Post 3868121)

The question is simple. What am I really going to gain by spending alot more time and money at the bench experimenting with other different loads and bullets??

The 300 grain Deep Curl will kill anything I want. The Leupold CDS worked perfect from 50 to 100 yarsds. And I am sure it is going to work to 200+. And the BH is so simple to clean and shoot. So why should I try anything else?? What am I really going to gain?? Nothing I can think of.

I am keeping track of how many shots my breech plug will last. Tom.

I see nothing to gain at all. The first load I tried with my Pursuit was almost perfect. I have tried other loads, just a few, and could not find any improvement. The load is a 240 grain XTP in a Thompson Center Mag Express sabot over 2 Fifty grain Pyrodex pellets. Everyone says use loose powder and I don't really like using the pellets but I can't find any reason to mess with a load the rifle seems to like. When I shot the 2 does I harvested this week, they were both at about 50 yards away. I never saw either one of them get hit because of the smoke from the shot. As I sat and waited to go check on the deer I pondered the possibilities of a miss. I recalled all the time I had spent on the range with the Pursuit shooting the exact same load I used to shoot at these 2 deer with and told myself there was no way I could have missed either shot. I was totally confident both shots, the frontal shot and the broadside shot were both good shots. The confidence I had from all of that range time was a good feeling. Unless I just want to have some fun, I will probably not take the pursuit to the range again, and the load will not change. It sits protected in a locking steel gun cabinet and I am confident that it will stay zeroed until the next time I take it out to hunt with it, this year or next.

Muley Hunter 10-29-2011 02:18 PM

We don't have a stump season here, so I hunt for coyotes.

builder459 10-29-2011 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 3868199)
We don't have a stump season here, so I hunt for coyotes.

That load would turn a yote inside out lol...all that would be left is crow bait, which is fine by me!i shoot yotes and cut there tails off and leave the rest for mother nature.:wink:

Doug100g 10-30-2011 05:27 AM

Thats what happened with my omega. I put in 100g of BH and it gave perfect groups at 100 yards and at 150 yards.

So here is another question. Do you experiment with 110g if you are doing great with 100g? Would you feel you are wasting powder?

I just think I am saving money by not going up. Plus, less recoil.

What would be the advantage of upping a load if lets say....your MZ shot good with 90g?


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SuperKirby 10-30-2011 05:52 AM

Look at how far your max shot would be then plug you load into a ballistics table and see if the estimated velocity and energy is acceptable at that range. Gernerally I would say that 90 or 100 grains of BH would be plenty acceptable out to 150 yards or more.


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