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Originally Posted by HEAD0001
(Post 3849535)
I would bet any shooter on this forum would shoot a rifle better if it had a good stock, with a good trigger and a nice scope, and mounts. I am not sure how any one can argue against that?? Tom. |
Originally Posted by Semisane
(Post 3849532)
For me, knowing I can shoot small 100 yard groups from the bench with a particular rifle and load is a big confidence booster in the field.
me too, and i know my gun will cloverleaf at 50yds.. so deer or paper, i have never had a problem... i lost the deer jitters 20 years ago... |
Originally Posted by EndeavorShooter
(Post 3849531)
i guess we will have to disagree on this one....my point would be a small pull from a heavy trigger at 50 yards might be 2" but out at 200yds it could be 20"... i guess i am lucky enough to not hunt as thick a woods as you describe... that and i would wait for a better shot or not took it at all.... and i can honestly say i have taken at least 5 deer a year for the last 15, from the same stand set-up
That is not what I was trying to say. What I was trying to say was that off of sandbags I can control a bad trigger. And I can shoot a good group with a bad trigger. But I can't shoot a good group in the field with that same bad trigger. So I am saying that a bad trigger is not as much of a detriment to shoot itty bitty groups from the bench. But a bad trigger is a real detriment in field conditions. Tom. |
Originally Posted by HEAD0001
(Post 3849539)
That is not what I was trying to say. What I was trying to say was that off of sandbags I can control a bad trigger. And I can shoot a good group with a bad trigger. But I can't shoot a good group in the field with that same bad trigger.
So I am saying that a bad trigger is not as much of a detriment to shoot itty bitty groups from the bench. But a bad trigger is a real detriment in field conditions. Tom. |
i agree, if you want to shoot a rifle with a horrible trigger, shoot a Mosin Nagant. I've tamed mine down with shims but there is a ton of creep and its still around 7-8lbs.
It shoots amazing though even with that springy/heavy trigger. |
Originally Posted by Semisane
(Post 3849532)
For me, knowing I can shoot small 100 yard groups from the bench with a particular rifle and load is a big confidence booster in the field.
I agree with that statement 100%. But you know deep down that bench accuracy is not field accuracy. It will build field confidence. But bench accuracy is no panacea for a real world hunting condition. IMO good bench accuracy is just a given in a good quality rifle. Kind of like gasoline in the tank of your truck. You can be the best driver in the world, but you are going nowhere without gas. I consider rifle accuracy as the gas in the tank. Tom. |
Originally Posted by EndeavorShooter
(Post 3849544)
Okay, i understand now... I didn't catch that i guess because i seldom shoot targets from a bench (unless it is a new scope, i am setting) I dont have one in my treesatnd so, why would i pratice from one...
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Remember a trigger doesnt make the rifle's accuracy better,
it makes the shooter better!!! |
Originally Posted by Grouse45
(Post 3849537)
They will argue about anything.
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Originally Posted by sabotloader
(Post 3849553)
You are lucky to be in tree stand many of my shots are off-hand from the ground or trying to find a tree trunk to get against or even a stump to use...
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