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Doug100g 08-06-2011 06:17 PM

thanks for the links guys. So basically you get 50 shots (including sabots) for around $25.00 plus shipping.

And would you say they are as good as Barnes Tez all copper? The T-ez load nice in my Omega. But they are $35.00 for 24 pack.


Doug

Semisane 08-06-2011 06:21 PM

With the exception of .40/200 grain XTP's in my .45, all I've used for hunting with my fast twist barrels have been 250 or 300 grain Deep Curls. I just can't see the need for anything else at my 175 yard maximum range. They perform on a par with the best premium bullets (Barnes, Nosler Partitions, etc.) and better than any non-premium. Even the .40/200 XTPs will likely be replaced with 40/180 DC's next season.

sabotloader 08-06-2011 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by Doug100g (Post 3831224)
thanks for the links guys. So basically you get 50 shots (including sabots) for around $25.00 plus shipping.

And would you say they are as good as Barnes Tez all copper? The T-ez load nice in my Omega. But they are $35.00 for 24 pack.


Doug

I do not know that i would go that far... Deep Curls to me are a poorman's Nosler Partition.

I would put all copper Barnes, Nosler Partitions, and Lehigh/bloodlines in another class above the Deep Curls, but the Deep Curls are much more economical and nearly as effective. Where you might or would see the difference is in a marginal shot which can occur once in awhile no matter what we do.

50calty 08-06-2011 07:10 PM

Sorry I didn't post the pic. But now its fixed. I'm just impressed at the accuracy at 200 yards and even 300 yards. My Triumph is probably my second most accurate gun and second with range. If the chorny will prove my data I wouldn't hesitate to shoot 300 yards for a deer but I don't know about the energy for an elk. That metal targe was sure moving. Never thought a muzzleloader could do what its doing now.

builder459 08-06-2011 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by Doug100g (Post 3831224)
thanks for the links guys. So basically you get 50 shots (including sabots) for around $25.00 plus shipping.

And would you say they are as good as Barnes Tez all copper? The T-ez load nice in my Omega. But they are $35.00 for 24 pack.


Doug

If your shots are not over 150 yds, just go with the Deep curls,there a darn tough bullet for the money.price VS performance there numero uno in my book.Ray

zakjak711 08-06-2011 08:48 PM

Sabotloader,

Thanks for the great post.
Thats a strong arguement for the deep curls.
I was just sharin my experiences with the XTP,however I have read about XTP's fragmenting.
Looks like I need to try the Deep Curls in my gun.

Zach

ronlaughlin 08-07-2011 03:38 AM


Originally Posted by 50calty (Post 3831054)
...................................I will chrono 110 grains soon but I did a rough figure. I took how much the fps increased between 90 and 100 grains and added that to the 100 grain fps to equal 110. Hope that made sense. That equals 2014 fps.........................

To me it seems this is some optimistic. Not totally unreasonable, but optimistic. More like 1950, or less during the typical hunting season temperatures. Of course all lots of powder, all rifles, and all chromometer are not the same.

Doug100g 08-07-2011 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by builder459 (Post 3831253)
If your shots are not over 150 yds, just go with the Deep curls,there a darn tough bullet for the money.price VS performance there numero uno in my book.Ray

Ok. That makes sense. What I do is practice with xtp's out to 150 yards. And I also shoot ground hogs with them at that distance. But I use the Barnes for 200-225 yard practice. And I use them to harvest deer now. I also would like to know what the new T/C shockwaves with the blue plastic tip would do? The package says bonded but not all copper.

They (t/c with blue tip) would cost me $1.13 per shot with sabot. Where the Barnes (T-ez) cost me $1.48 per shot with sabot's.

I was hoping to find a cheaper compromise with the deep curl.

But I have a feeling when hunting my confidence will be with Barnes...lol


Doug

builder459 08-07-2011 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by Doug100g (Post 3831334)
Ok. That makes sense. What I do is practice with xtp's out to 150 yards. And I also shoot ground hogs with them at that distance. But I use the Barnes for 200-225 yard practice. And I use them to harvest deer now. I also would like to know what the new T/C shockwaves with the blue plastic tip would do? The package says bonded but not all copper.

They (t/c with blue tip) would cost me $1.13 per shot with sabot. Where the Barnes (T-ez) cost me $1.48 per shot with sabot's.

I was hoping to find a cheaper compromise with the deep curl.

But I have a feeling when hunting my confidence will be with Barnes...lol


Doug

You can't go wrong with a Barnes and like mulie mentioned you can always buy a cheaper bullet of the same weight and impact point to practice with if need be!Ray

ronlaughlin 08-07-2011 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by Doug100g (Post 3831334)
Ok. That makes sense. What I do is practice with xtp's out to 150 yards. And I also shoot ground hogs with them at that distance. But I use the Barnes for 200-225 yard practice. And I use them to harvest deer now. I also would like to know what the new T/C shockwaves with the blue plastic tip would do? The package says bonded but not all copper.

They (t/c with blue tip) would cost me $1.13 per shot with sabot. Where the Barnes (T-ez) cost me $1.48 per shot with sabot's.

I was hoping to find a cheaper compromise with the deep curl.

But I have a feeling when hunting my confidence will be with Barnes...lol


Doug

A couple of weeks ago, i was playin' around with the 300g Deep Curl at what turned out to be 271 yard measured by the laser.



From my experience using the Deep Curl bullet on deer, water jugs, and paper; 150 yard is definitely not an upper limit. I won't hesitate to shoot at deer twice that distance. Just be prepared to see a lot of tissue damage, when you open up your critter.


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