Sure it could, It would be hard to get it to shoot better but do able but they could start by making it available in good quality stainless and with an adjustable trigger a bit better design on the stock with different thickness but plate to change the length of pull. A spring backed pivot point so that wear or tolerance did not affect the group shooting capability and a 45 degree lock up with a lever and spring system that was strong enough to really lock it in place [ Triumph's is good but easily improved on] any good gunsmith could show you many ways to improve on the Triumph.
I believe that the biggest problem with modern design is that engineers are doing it they understand many things but the intricacies of barrel whip and accuracy are not taught in school if they severed a 7 year apprenticeship working on guns under an old Master they could learn things they have yet to even hear of.

I know what you mean. The Triumph to me is a well built ML and would last most forever.

The break action (Vision) length of pool is being changed, the trigger is being changed to adjustable, the trigger will also be one piece, the recoil pad is going to be changed, and something else that i know of. Just don't remember right now.

It will be hard pressed for someone to make a better inline then the Triumph. I hope I'm wrong cause that would be nice and a hell of a gun. Its hard to buy or own any other inlines once you have your hands on a Triumph.

Ive said for a long time...An improved Vision would be a great gun. No exposed hammer and a common CF safety system. It just needed a few refinements to be a top shelf break action.

What you're talking about GM, is my Lyman Mustang. No exposed hammer, top lever break open, sliding safety on top of the tang, all steel action.

Semisane

I handled a Mustang when they had one on closeout. I came close to buying it but its a 1-28. It has a few things i didn't like and they also had a bad track record if they needed repair. The one i handled had issues with the action release and the safety felt very loose.

Otherwise it was built like a tank. The Denali is also built like a tank but the reviews were much better. Pedersoli also has some of the highest/best rate of voluntary proof testing and imported barrel quality. They go far beyond what CIP requires in Europe for MLs. I really missed out when Cabelas blew them out for $129.

Especially since they are $500 or more at places like Dixie,if you even find one

Amen to that, there saboted bullet shooting machines lol.Ray

I know, i saw that during my search and laughed. Its just too much for me to invest in a break action project unless it can handle smokeless.

IMHO the vision is so darn ugly and looks like a shotgun.the Lyman isn't quite as ugly, but still has the shotgun lever to break the gun open.

Builder, in the early 1900's there were quite a few very expensive high quality rifles that had that same kind of top lever break open action.

The only criticism I have for my Mustang is it has a lousy trigger.

The Denali looks nice too and they offer a fancy wood for a bit more. The action release doesn't bother me. The Mustang looks really nice actually. My Citori is has a similar lever and cost over $1000.





They also made a Rolling Block clone ive never been able to find much info about.

Yes i know SEMI, i just couldn't ever get past how ugly the vision is.:poke: the mustang is a lot better looking rifle.

I'd like to see an affordable rifle that has the option to swap barrels to change the caliber.
Then more people would be able to get into black powder shotgunning without needing to buy a whole new gun.
Traditions (and TC) did it on a very small scale but not any more.
That would probably mean that it would need to be a break action.
And I would like to see more hunting and inline pistols.
And with the demise of the Ruger Old Army I would like to see an American made cap & ball revolver. Folks would be willing to pay more for it.
It sad to see that we are totally dependent on Italy producing them for us.
More and more people are entering muzzle loading by buying cap & ball revolvers and the only American made gun is the small NAA .22 C&B's which is unfortunate considering how many full size revolvers are sold to new shooters, and folks tend to buy many multiples of them.
Folks generally don't need a lot of duplicate hunting rifles, but they like to have duplicate pistols for recreational shooting because they tend to replace their center fire pistols with them as they gain more interest.
I think that it's a mistake that American companies have largely ignored the BP pistol and revolver market entirely.
The same goes for new powders. They need to be compatible in the cap & balls, not like Blackhorn 209.
The new Black MZ will hopefully fill the bill.
And I wish that a maker would come up with more affordable percussion caps for folks. At $6 or more per hundred they cost at least twice as much as regular primers do and folks complain about it all of the time. A single .22 long rifle cartridge can still cost about 3 cents each with powder, primer, bullet and brass case. So caps are a price gouge that makes folks angry. And the only US makers are CCI and Remington which CCI's don't fit many revolver nipples very well.
So instead of simply making something new, I think that companies can make some things better for a change, and that would be like making something new. Maybe a new company making something better...and more new companies trying harder to make folks happy!

After a bit more thought, here is why I would upgrade from my Knight...

1)Break action, using 209 primers...
2)Adjustable trigger (like the Apex)...
3)Rifling and barrel length that would let us use 110-150gr powder charges
and burn all of it...

As I think about #3, I've never sighted in a muzzleloader that would group well
with powder charges over 100grs of loose...That's with real BP and Pyrodex...
My Knight groups best with 80grs so shots past 150 yards are a challenge...It
might take a combination of new bullets and a muzzleloader with different
rifling than the standard 1-28...

We can hit 2,000fps with flintlocks and a 38-42 inch barrel, but I can't touch that with
an inline...