I have never heard of Black Magic, only black Mag and Black Mag3. Same stuff?

Yes. I always thought it was short for magic. Maybe not.

LOL, Ok, I always figured Magnum...

I also realized why I could not bring up the link on the article on Black Mag3 listed above: have to remove the .if from the end of the link.

There was also a BlackDot in a 10oz bottle that never got to market and BlackMagXP.

It appears they more or less bought the name than the formula but i don't have the original MDS for a comparison. If its by the pound and cheaper than BH209, i really want to give it a try in the 45s.

according to the site, it is going to be sold in 1 lb jugs.also if it's $27.00, it's the same price i would pay here for 777..Ray

Ignition is 670 degrees. My brain has gone on strike, but isn't that higher than Pyro/T7?

Grafs has it listed at about $22lb but out of stock. If i place a nice sized order at my local Grafs they will get it for me.

http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/23435

Pyro MDS
http://www.wku.edu/msds/docs/Pyrodex.pdf

Looks like its easier to ignite by 70F.

777 MDS
http://www.hodgdon.com/PDF/T7-msds.pdf

About 100F less needed for ignition

It says under the description "water resistent". So I am assuming the ignition would be related to what is being used to protect the product from moisture.

Hygroscopic properties were my biggest complaint with T-7 powder. Those properties are why I swore off the T-7.

So IMO, the question about this new powder would be how is it treated(or what is it treated with) to give it a "water resistant" property??

Obviously "water resistant" is not "water proof". So I wonder what the trade off is??

And certainly this trade off is what is causing the inconsistency of ignition on most other powders?? So I wonder how this powder will differ in the ignition characteristics?? As noted by the ignition temperature in the above post??

So I wonder how the hygroscopic properties of this new powder stack up against the hygroscopic properties of T-7?? And against the hygroscopic properties of the BH-209 that so many of you speak so highly of?? VS plain old Black Powder?? Tom.

Ok. It should work a bit better in caplocks.

Probably not in flints though.:confused0024: