Regarding the scope - Until the Vortex Viper 2-7x32 is no longer on closeout, I will keep recommending it at the best deal out there. At $149, nothing less than 200 bucks comes close.

I looked at them and the eye relief wasn't long enough for me. Vortex is the best buy in binoculars and spotting scopes on the market today. world class warranty and crystal clear optics. there products cost far less than the other big name optic brands with better glass. i almost fell over when my $200.00 8x42 diamond backs showed up at my door.. all i can say is WOW!!!! Ray

My next scope purchase will probably be either this Vortex.
http://www.cameralandny.com/optics/v...ondback4-12x40

Or this Zeiss
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hunti...3Bcat104535180

Both are not what I consider affordable scopes. I believe the origional poster was given alot of affordable scope options. The Simmons 4X probably IMO being the best bang for your buck if you do not need higher magnification.
http://www.natchezss.com/Category.cf...dTitle=Simmons 4x32 ProDiamond Riflescope ProDiamond Reticle Matte

Not really iawalleyeguy. There are a number of mechanical reasons involved.

Generally speaking, the closer the mid-line of the scope is to the mid-line of the barrel the better things will be from a ballistic/trajectory standpoint. However, low mounts often won't work with a scope that has a large objective lens (scope hits barrel). Sometimes, if you want to leave the iron sights on a barrel you need higher mounts for the scope to clear the sights. Sometimes, depending on the stock configuration and facial structure of the shooter one particular height is slightly more comfortable than another. Then there's an issue with some muzzleloaders (such at the TC Omega) where extra room between the rear of the scope and the breech makes inserting the primer easier.

The Diamond back is the way to go and i agree on the 4x pro diamond scope,especiall if one lives in the part of the country where close in shots are the norm. i just prefer the 3-9x44's myself (brings them in closer):happy0001: i also wanted to try a BDC scope on the Triumph.. Ray

Semi is right about looking at a fixed power scope. If you are budget conscious then you probablty can buy a higher quality fixed power scope instead of a lesser quality variable. What exactly is your budget?? I have seen some pretty good condition fixed 4X Leupolds for about $125 or so. That would get you a great scope with a lifetime warranty that is worth something. The fixed 4X Weaver is also a pretty decent scope. Tom.

My "budget" scope is a Bushnell Banner Dusk to Dawn in 3-9x40mm I have 4 of them and have yet to break them. Very clear and all I need for the <100 yard shots I have around here.

Exactly why i bought one after reading many reviews on them.:happy0001: anxious to see how the BDC works out also :wave: Ray

i have a weaver k4 4x. it was on a .308 and .270. and sits now on my omega. im next gonna buy a 1-3x20 weaver. i think its $160. dont need a lot of magnification for 200 yards. used this scope on my .270 for 300 got a 3 inch group and it was where i wanted it.

Nikon Omega is my choice for $200.00 scope or less. Super clear scope. Fast target acquisition. 5 inch eye relief (Your eyes have no price tag). And can smoke small targets out to 200 yards.

We have been successfully taking ground hogs at 125 to 150 yards with my Omega muzzy and and nikon scope.

We got three last night directly where we placed the crosshairs.

100 grains of BH
TC shockwave or Hornady xtp (240gr for both).

Spend a few extra bucks so you wont have to change out scopes if you change your hunting paterns or move locations. Blue locktite and forget.

Here is one pic of a ground hog my son shot with the t/c at 125 yards. The kid is an awesome shot.

He hits a pie plate at 200 yards and acts like its texing a friend on a cell phone. Kids have those beautiful young eyes...lol


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