They are not bad but i dont see the sense in spending about 40 cents each for a 15 cent bullet. I tried to buy them in bulk (500) from Harvester and they still wanted full price. Even my local shop used to sell them for $75/500. Harvester has done the same thing with the 45cal 240-300gr Funnel points and now only they can sell them due to their contract with Rainier. They also jacked the price WAY up on the 45cals compared to what other vendors charged.

Noslers are $45/250 at Cabelas and appear to be just as good if not better. XTPs are the same price for 100 and perform nearly the same but shoot better over a larger fps range.

If Speer would get off their arses and offer a tougher 200gr, i probably would never look any further for a 200gr 40cal.

i didnt think harvesters prices were bad

$18.99 plus shipping vs the same price for 100 XTPs with a proven track record upto 2800fps+ MV. Nosler 200gr bullets are even cheaper but you have to buy 250.

Seriously.... you think that the funnel point is a good price compared to the others? I can still get a few 45cal Rainiers at a LGS for less than half the price Harvester charges....ITS THE EXACT SAME BULLET.

Now if they added the poly tip to the 40-200gr...that would be another story. Ive asked them to offer it every time ive talked to Ron or Allen and a good friend of theirs.

I betcha if TB hammered out the .45's like he does the .50's Harvester would offer a poly tipped .40 Funnel Mag. I am with you in the .40 Cal bullets. 100 XTP's and $4.95 shipping from Grafs make it an affordable bullet. I am waiting on Sabotloader or you to hammer out some 100yd groups with the Noslers before I jump into 250 of them.

i see many telling others to use a gold dot over an xtp

In a .452 bullet I like the tests I have seen done with the Gold Dots aka. Deep Curls. I have seen little testing of the .40 Gold Dots but I do believe they would perform just as well as the .452's. Gold Dots in .40 caliber run around $26 per 100 and are very popular bullet as nobody can seem to keep them in stock.

BTW, I do like the way the 200gr .40 Funnel Mag looks. I believe it held together well. Did you happen to weight it?

What does that have to do with my question? Are your math skills so bad you can only side step it?

Better yet go look at Dougs board for groups and performance of 40cal 200gr HP bullets. Then look at the reports of a XTP moving 2500fps or less on reduced recoil smokeless loads. There are pages and pages of data that proves they do work. ;)

I will even help a little


Last time i checked Speer does NOT offer a 200gr 40cal. So there is NO WAY anyone recommended using one over a XTP. :bash:

So bad in fact that i at times have to pull off my shoes and socks at the restaurant and count on my toes to keep track on how big of a tip to leave.:nonono2:

Sorry, No scale but one's on my list.

2800 FPS? What powder load shoots at those speeds?

The only one that mushroomed was the SST's. How do they compare in price to the Harvesters?