medium heat primers.

I'll have to see if i can find any of this powder locally. and also order some cci inline MZL primers.

Say no more, that statement says all most of us need to know! you have saved a lot of members there hard earned money. Ray

Ray, even with American Pioneer or JSG, Pyrodex RS, I still get a crud ring with the W209 primers.

APP or JSG shoots better in a CVA shooting Powerbelts than it does in a T/C or Knight. Don't forget that>

Doubt it. On the other hand, the Powerbelts shooting better in a CVA statement probably does hold water.

Now this may sound crazy but the last HOT primer i used last year with APP 2f, was the federal 209a primer it believe it or not, i had zero crud ring in the barrel. I dont know if its because i lost a lot of the heat due to my head spacing being loose and fouling up the action or what, but i'd be interested in seeing how the federal primer works with the new powder.

Jon, the CR isn't what i am talking about, it's the groups he got. on MM he posted pics today shot from that same rifle with the good powder lol and all i can say is it's a SHOOTER.now ask yourself why they claim you can shoot a bazzilion rounds with JSG and no swabbing. if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a damn duck lol.. Ray

new powder = new learning a head.

Well it just figures. I did not get my hopes up very much; I tried to get APP and JSG to shoot for two years it would shoot decent for a while then the next can would not. Never did figure out if its poor design or lack of quality control.

omaga, did your super powder have a lot of white stuff stuck to the granulates????

thanks for the info this helps a lot of people out on this powder i will stay with blackhorn when i go to the range to shot i want to shot not clean all the time so i can have more shooting time cleaning for win im at home