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Gm54-120 03-23-2011 09:13 PM

builder459

Actually it can shoot more if you want to play with sabotless. Ive seen guys using 1-20 DISCs shooting a sized 45-250gr FTX faster than most guys can shoot them sabotted in a 50cal. I havent tried it much yet in my 1-30. Pretty much any sabotted hunting bullet a 1-30 can shoot a 1-20 can shoot too. In a 1-30 you may have to drive them a bit faster to get the same stabilizing effect.....which isn't always a bad thing either.

BTW my Savage 50 is a 1-24 too and will handle 225gr to 400gr bullets in sabots fine with subs or smokeless. When in doubt spin it faster. ;)

mountaineer magic 03-24-2011 04:40 AM

If you want to go with conicals and a 1:30 twist why not go traditional. My Lyman Great Plains Hunter has a 1:32 twist and is very accurate with a 425 gr lead conical and 110 gr 777. The Lyman 57 peep made to go on them is the best peep sight you can get.

builder459 03-24-2011 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by chetmarks (Post 3790445)
If you want to go with conicals and a 1:30 twist why not go traditional. My Lyman Great Plains Hunter has a 1:32 twist and is very accurate with a 425 gr lead conical and 110 gr 777. The Lyman 57 peep made to go on them is the best peep sight you can get.

Chet,after doing a bit of thinking. i have decided to buy a .45 cal GMB LRH barrel and stick it on the old renegade stock i have here. GMB states the twist on the .45 is 1:30. i like the set trigger on the renegade and since it's just sitting here doing nothing lol. why not, only thing i do not like is the weight. other than that it's a win win situation..slam a peep on it and she will be ready to go! Ray

Muley Hunter 03-24-2011 01:29 PM

I like my all copper Thor conical.

They leave holes this big :arms:

ronlaughlin 03-24-2011 02:28 PM

wow, that is big

Muley Hunter 03-24-2011 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by ronlaughlin (Post 3790718)
wow, that is big

That's what the elk said as he hit the dirt.

NoShow 03-26-2011 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by builder459 (Post 3790349)
thank you Flounder. i will find one in time. i need to sell the Triumph anyway have i have the .50 wolverine to shoot big lead from. i have the peep mounted on it now also.thanks again Ray

I also have a .50 Wolverine and I agree it's a great gun.
Never fired conicals from it..never thought of it as a conical
gun. So do you mind sharing your loads? I don't have the time
to go and try a lot of loads so any help would be appreciated.

Oh and good luck on finding that .45

sabotloader 03-26-2011 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by NoShow (Post 3791455)
I also have a .50 Wolverine and I agree it's a great gun.
Never fired conicals from it..never thought of it as a conical
gun. So do you mind sharing your loads? I don't have the time
to go and try a lot of loads so any help would be appreciated.

Oh and good luck on finding that .45

Not sure if this will help you or not but I shoot .504/460 grain Bull Shop conicals from my MK-85 (50 cal). 90 grains T7-2f, a .510x.125 shot card on top of the powder then that big hunk of lead....

It rocks! on both ends...

sabotloader 03-26-2011 02:57 PM

builder459

Ray, i have hesitated getting into this one because I honestly do know the twist rate of the GM-LRH 45 cal barrel. I have a couple of 50 GM's and they are 1/28 and I would assume the 45 would be the same thing.... BUT.... GM seems to believe that 1/30 twist (mathematically) is the ideal twist for a 45 and the shorter 45 cal bullets available. So when you look at a .451/488 gr. Bull Shop how that might do in that twist - I am really not sure. If the bullet is made well it should be OK but I just do not know.

builder459 03-26-2011 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by sabotloader (Post 3791469)
builder459

Ray, i have hesitated getting into this one because I honestly do know the twist rate of the GM-LRH 45 cal barrel. I have a couple of 50 GM's and they are 1/28 and I would assume the 45 would be the same thing.... BUT.... GM seems to believe that 1/30 twist (mathematically) is the ideal twist for a 45 and the shorter 45 cal bullets available. So when you look at a .451/488 gr. Bull Shop how that might do in that twist - I am really not sure. If the bullet is made well it should be OK but I just do not know.

Mike the GMB site is confusing lol. if i wanted to shoot .45 cal .460 or 488 gr bullets the 1:20 is the ticket. like you said the 1:30 shoots the lighter conicals well. where does that leave the .45 1:28? about the same as the 1:30? Ray


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